Where Do We Go at Death if not heaven or hell?

Neil 2
I love your use of a more universal language.
"Christed Beings" stuck out to me. I like the way it makes me think of the anointing with spirit/oil between God/Creator and Ourselves. I love the way I can see the twisting and untwisting of Ourselves when you explain it. It is hard to untwist something that has been twisted, It naturally wants to twist back to the familiar twisted shape. The Grace through Love is untwisting us.
I see your greatest insight in your post as ' The law of LOVE ' !!!!!
Knowledge of a thing, like lets say Faith. As much as you can try to manifest Faith if it is not motivated out of Gods form of Love it has little power. Power, now that is one that perplexed me. I believe NOW, the Christian power is LOVE. The pure Love I know little about. If I try to do all I do out of the Love of God as I have experienced, then things flow from rest/ease. If I miss the Mark (Say wrong motives) I can feel myself twisting back inward. Focusing on that Love, I feel an untwisting and I BREATHE.
Loved reading your words.

Neil 2
I love your use of a more universal language.
"Christed Beings" stuck out to me. I like the way it makes me think of the anointing with spirit/oil between God/Creator and Ourselves. I love the way I can see the twisting and untwisting of Ourselves when you explain it. It is hard to untwist something that has been twisted, It naturally wants to twist back to the familiar twisted shape. The Grace through Love is untwisting us.
I see your greatest insight in your post as ' The law of LOVE ' !!!!!
Knowledge of a thing, like lets say Faith. As much as you can try to manifest Faith if it is not motivated out of Gods form of Love it has little power. Power now that is one that perplexed me. I believe NOW, the Christian power is LOVE. The pure Love I know little about. If I try to do all I do out of the Love of God as I have experienced, then things flows from rest/ease. If I miss the Mark (Say wrong motives) I can feel myself twisting back inward. Focusing on that Love I feel an untwisting and I BREATHE.
Loved reading your words.

Christianity, in its best sense, is intended to be inclusive rather than exclusive. A big umbrella, in other words. We enter shaky ground when we are determined to become specific in what defines a Christian. This leads to dissension and animosities which run counter to the gospel of love. In my personal case I did a confession of faith.....which was rather simple. I still remember the words......the minister would say....." I only have the right to ask you ONE question: Do you believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God, and do you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior?" I highlighted 'one question'.....there was no question about reincarnation, etc. There are many things that Christians do not agree on yet I have no reason to question their faith. Another example is God bipartite or tripartite in nature. It is a very fundamental question but one without consensus of understanding. For explanation......bipartite means man is body and soul, tripartite means man consists of body, soul and spirit.

[VinceField]

Christianity is exclusive in the sense that there is only one true God and one way to heaven. Those who preach another god, be it Hindus, Muslims, etc are wrong and without faith in Christ are excluded from his saving grace.

[neil]

Yes there is only one true God & one true heaven and it is called the "HOLY KINGDOM", & and it contains within it a multitude of spheres which are all varying in love, light & abundance and a person will live in the correct location according to their quality of soul, as they will feel uncomfortable within the atmosphere of locations of more love, light & abundance than the location that suits their quality of soul. & the holy kingdom is set up in this way to allow persons with similar qualities of "Gods LOVE & VERY ESSENCE" to live amongst each other in total harmony.

Also adjoining the HOLY KINGDOM And spanning out from the outer fringes of the KINGDOM, are the "NATURAL LOVE" SUMMERLANDS, AND just like the HOLY KINGDOM, the natural love spheres also have VARYING DEGREES OF LOVE, LIGHT AND ABUNDANCE WITHIN....AND IF A PERSON WERE TO TRAVEL SLOWLY (WALKING PACE) FROM ONE SPHERE AND INTO THE NEXT THEY WOULD NOTICE THAT AS THEY MOVE FURTHER IN THE ATMOSPHERE BECOMES TO MUCH FOR THEM TO PHYSICALLY BEAR..SAME AS THE HOLY KINGDOM....PEOPLE WITH POORER QUALITIES OF LOVE CAN NOT SET UP HOME AMONGST PEOPLE WHO ARE PERFECTED WITH HIGHER QUALITIES OF SOUL LOVE, ALLOWING FOLK TO LIVE AMONGST ONE AND OTHER IN COMPLETE HARMONY.

All are welcome..(sinners also)...in the outer fringes of the
first sphere of the summerlands (NATURAL LOVE SPHERES) if they can feel comfortable with the atmosphere there in, ....BUT only those with sufficient amounts of Gods love & very essence can venture into the HOLY KINGDOM...PEOPLE WITHOUT A SKERRICK OF GODS LOVE AND VERY ESSENCE COULD NOT MOVE PAST THE FINAL FRINGES OF THE SIXTH SPHERE OF THE NATURAL LOVE SPHERES AND INTO THE FIRST SPHERE OF THE HOLY KINGDOM....THEY JUST COULD NOT ENTER, BECAUSE OF THE OF THE "LOVE/LIGHT" INTENSITY.

I write this info for your considerations...regards from me..Neil

Originally Posted by VinceField

Christianity is exclusive in the sense that there is only one true God and one way to heaven. Those who preach another god, be it Hindus, Muslims, etc are wrong and without faith in Christ are excluded from his saving grace.

VinceField,

So you are saying that grace is conditional? interesting.......but contradicts the promises of God. Even here a schism remains in Christianity with some believing that salvation comes by works and others believing it comes by graces. You are clearly stating that the condition of God's grace is having faith in Christ.

[VinceField]

Originally Posted by Molearner

VinceField,

So you are saying that grace is conditional? interesting.......but contradicts the promises of God. Even here a schism remains in Christianity with some believing that salvation comes by works and others believing it comes by graces. You are clearly stating that the condition of God's grace is having faith in Christ.

The Bible clearly teaches that salvation comes through faith by grace. It would help if you read the book.

Originally Posted by VinceField

The Bible clearly teaches that salvation comes through faith by grace. It would help if you read the book.

It is unfortunate to see such confusion. You must answer the fundamental question........Which comes first.....grace or faith? It is readily apparent that you believe that faith comes first.

Neil

2 Cor. 12:2 talks of the third Heaven.
So it did make me consider.

Can you say what would be some of the indicators here in the flesh?(Mark 16: 17-18) "These signs shall follow those that believe."
Are these some of the indicators of inner ring/sphere outer ring/sphere positioning?

Also, what about graduating/transition levels after death when in Heaven?
Are you saying the level or position toward God/Heaven is only attained in the flesh and after death it is fixed/unmovable?

[soulforce]

Originally Posted by VinceField

Christianity is exclusive in the sense that there is only one true God and one way to heaven. Those who preach another god, be it Hindus, Muslims, etc are wrong and without faith in Christ are excluded from his saving grace.

What do you know about other religions that you could see separation from Jesus who I assume you believe to be God (3 persons, one God)?

After all Jesus is just a name English speaking people call God right? Do they only speak English in heaven?

The way to heaven is believing love is the only way.

1 John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God.

I think the most simplistic explanations tends to be the correct ones. God cares not what religion you practice, what name you worship because there is only one love and it encompasses all. The Christian cares for what he knows, the Buddhist for what she knows, the Muslim for what they know. And it's all for you so that you may know the depths of God, the source of all.