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11-06-2023, 09:16 PM
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Pathfinder
Join Date: Sep 2022
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What are your thoughts on this quote?
"You'll end up really disappointed if you think people will do for you as you do for them. Not everyone has the same heart as you."
I think this is true on so many levels. It's also a lesson you don't really learn until you grow up. (Even then you could still make the same mistake.)
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12-06-2023, 12:41 AM
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Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 3,304
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Everyone’s unique and expresses themselves in the world as they are and can be.
Doing is different for me now because I’ve balanced doing and non doing as myself. How I give out to the world, is generally how balanced and alive I feel within me. I just can’t do it otherwise. I see it more as an effortless state of being you without attachments to what comes back. There are lessons in letting go of ‘return’ and expectations within the state of your own balanced being.
When your own tank is full it’s easier to be outwardly giving without expectation and more receiving through being yourself most naturally. That’s not about the other..
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Free from all thought of “I” and “mine”, that man finds utter peace. ~Bhagavad Gita
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12-06-2023, 01:39 AM
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Master
Join Date: May 2016
Location: U.S. Southwest
Posts: 2,750
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That quote to me is about expectations. If I do something for someone else I need to let go and not expect anything in return; this way I do not get disappointed. This way I am not attached to what I give. There are people who just enjoy giving without expecting anything in return.
When we look at life as a quid pro quo; you do something for me and I‘ll do something for you; trust between people who are doing this must be strong. There has to be a conscious agreement that this is the expectation and that expectation will be honored by all involved.
People usually suffer when they have unmet expectations. In my opinion we should not have expectations from those who have not earned our trust, but even those who have earned our trust can betray us. For me, I have found that it is best to give without being attached to what you have given.
No matter what happens, you have received something in return, if nothing more then a lesson, or maybe even the joy of giving.
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12-06-2023, 05:11 AM
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Master
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 2,791
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Totally agree with Starman.
From my experience in the last fifty years, he is totally correct.
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13-06-2023, 05:55 AM
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Master
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,308
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Expectation reduces joy. If you give or love, expecting to be given or loved in return, chances are you will be disappointed.
Joy and happiness dependent on external situations and people obviously indicate dependency, weakness and slavery.
So love for the sake of love, and give for the sake of giving. This will purify the heart or consciousness, leading to internal joy and happiness independent of external situations and people.
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When even one virtue becomes our nature, the mind becomes clean and tranquil. Then there is no need to practice meditation; we will automatically be meditating always. ~ Swami Satchidananda
Wholesome virtuous behavior progressively leads to the foremost.~ Buddha AN 10.1
If you do right, irrespective of what the other does, it will slow down the (turbulent) mind. ~ Rajini Menon
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17-06-2023, 03:00 AM
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Ascender
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 998
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The quote has taken the golden rule out of context.
"Do unto others as you would have others do unto you" has the onus on YOU and YOUR actions towards others. Not the expectation that others will treat you likewise. We can only control our actions, not the actions of others.
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17-06-2023, 09:16 AM
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Master
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3,356
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Anyone who gives, and expects the same in return, still has a long way to go in this reality. And I would say to them, happy travels.
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Hallelujah to all my brethren.
Rah nam
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17-06-2023, 11:54 AM
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ajay00's post reminded me on a recent discussion I participated when it was mentioned (as well) that when you give is 'when' you recieve.... I 'm experiencing this totally with my mother's dog...
Maybe humans 'have' to be a little different... lol ....maybe
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17-06-2023, 12:44 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Southwest, USA
Posts: 25,151
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by deadCanDance4
... when you give is 'when' you receive....
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When you receive you are giving, also. Huh? 
You are allowing the other person the exp of giving.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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17-06-2023, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
When you receive you are giving, also. Huh?
You are allowing the other person the exp of giving. |
Yes. Maybe this depends how open you are and how much more you want to be in the same process.
I think processes in genaeral have limits.. |
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