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19-05-2015, 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by In vita mea
If it were all one moment, then I'd have the ability to go back to when I was 18 again but, I can't. I can no more fly through the air than change the past. My perception of whether I enjoyed my past can be altered but that's akin to looking at a painting, on each day of a week, and appreciating varying details of the painting with each day bringing a different appreciation. You can't change the painting as it's happened but it's your view that changes and that has no real bearing on past events.
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Try to contemplate this question - when will you ever experience your conscious awareness other than the present moment? Is it not always the present moment? You ONLY experience your existence in the here & now... We're not saying there is not a sequence of events that unfold during your existence, we're saying that the present moment is all that truly exists... You can revisit experiences in your mind and believe it to be the 'past', you can use your imagination to create your idea of the 'future', but you are still ONLY experiencing your existence in the present moment...
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19-05-2015, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by wolfgaze
we're saying that the present moment is all that truly exists...
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I am not saying that.
BTW the 'present moment' does not represent a singular moment in time.
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19-05-2015, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by wstein
The easiest way to visualize this is to think of a movie. If you are a character in the film, it seems to progress moment to moment. You don’t know what is going to happen until it does.
But to a person holding the finished DVD in their hand, the whole movie is complete. Everything that is going to happen has. You are free to put the DVD in a player and skip around to time indexes in any order you wish.
To a movie editor, though the movie is complete and printed on DVD, it still can be changed. This happens all the time on TV when its edited for content or to fit a time slot.
So while watching a movie it seems like time is passing. It's not (contents of DVD is not changing), you are simply traveling along time indexes in order and making up the sequence of images into a story. With a bit of effort you could view the images in a different order and see a different story. Even though the entire time sequence is complete and unchanging, that does not mean you can’t change the entire sequence (or content). No time does not mean no changes.
Heck, just put another DVD in the player and all ‘time’ is completely different…
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I like this explanation wstein.
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19-05-2015, 06:55 AM
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wstein,
You don't often hear, 'it has already happened'...I get that more and more
especially because of A Course In Miracles (ACIM) helping me with
the Mind Shift....and what a shift it is!
Glad you brought it up ...and your DVD analogy was* superb!
Next, metal68 is going to ask how can this all be a Dream!?
So, we have 'no time'....and 'none of this is real'....hahaha....lol!!
Ya gotta love it all!
Then, we can move into "I am the chair you're sitting on".
That can be next week! But, it has already happened, so we can
just replay it as we do everything. Ha!
* Sorry, is superb and is going to be superb
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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19-05-2015, 07:27 PM
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BTW the 'present moment' does not represent a singular moment in time.
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I would not suggest that it does... It's ALWAYS the present moment.
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19-05-2015, 08:55 PM
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Hi Tobi,
I think you are correct with this.
Time does not exist as we know it in the afterlife but the soul will have some kind of concept of it from the time it spent on the planet.
Light and Peace
Cirrus
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21-05-2015, 08:36 PM
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Of course there can be no time as we know it in the afterlife. Just as time is so different in a dream. We only perceive time as a constant in this life as we live by the clock, be it a real clock or the body clock that is a materialistic clock. This tells us that we need to sleep when its dark and make hay while the sun shines.
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21-05-2015, 09:58 PM
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There is no time in the spirit world time is a thing that only we expect we have time because we do other things like work school etc,many a time I have been asked why haven't I had a sign from someone in spirit when they have been gone a while, ten minutes in our time could be like 10 months to spirit,it has no purpose, that's why it can take years to hear from someone and others come through quicker,
Namaste
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25-05-2015, 02:15 AM
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If time existed in the higher dimensions - there would be a time of pre-existence - which is in paradox territory.
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26-05-2015, 07:36 AM
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The following excerpt is extracting from a book about Near-Death Experiences and a section which was describing what is typically referred to as a 'life review' by the experiencers:
"We learned earlier that during a life review every single detail of one’s past life can be relived. Everything appears to be connected to everything else, an interconnection similar to what in quantum physics is called entanglement; everything is one. All past events appear to be stored and available as soon as one’s mind turns to them. Time no longer plays a role; everything exists in an eternal present. This is true for time as well as for place. NDErs report that during their experiences they can be anywhere in the past as soon as they think about or want to be in a particular place, be it as a baby in its crib, at a sporting event in elementary school, as a student on a study abroad program, or during a vacation in Australia. They instantly return to that situation and relive everything that mattered at that moment in time, including the emotional impact on themselves and others. The mind seems to contain everything at once in a timeless and placeless dimension. In quantum theory this timeless and placeless interconnectedness is called nonlocality." ~ Consciousness Beyond Life (Pim van Lommel M.D.)
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