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Old 10-12-2023, 06:33 AM
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FallingLeaves………..Don’t let your sense of self be defined by others.

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Old 10-12-2023, 08:06 AM
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@ Michael # 10 ~ in my view, as I said in post 7, bliss in duality, here and peace in singularity, as light of Self, because bliss relates to union of polarities, thus benign friction, whereas in singularity there is only one ~ so ineffable peace
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Old 10-12-2023, 09:31 PM
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unseeking seeker -

my experience is that it is very difficult to ignore people who are taking a whip to your back. Maybe you have had a different experience though?
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Old 11-12-2023, 12:26 AM
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@ FallingLeaves ~ each person acts as of their present consciousness coordinate, so knowing no better, they can do no better, no different from the instinctive behaviour of an animal. So why allow a barking dog to affect us?

Now, if we are in a toxic relationship or have abusive or apathetic people we are living with and cannot exit the circumstances, for whatever reason, then perhaps all we can do is to still try and remain calm, whilst maintaining self respect in as much as we are able. At the first opportunity, shift away. There really is no point in trauma bonding.
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Old 11-12-2023, 12:39 AM
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The bliss current you feel Unseeking Seeker has arisen visions within my
being, ranging from this current is the localized intensity with the being
of the PRESENCE-SELF.

And the other vision of the YIN and YANG polarities both coalesce within
the heart chakra, and this then automatically activates the bliss current.


What are your thoughts on this



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Old 11-12-2023, 01:12 AM
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@ Michael ~ after kundalini ascent to crown, then polarity balance takes place after which cosmic egg, Hiranyagarbha in head splits from which male and female polarities descend to heart, where they merge and the result is an explosion of bliss igniting the Sushumna, the central vein, staff of power or rod of initiation as it is called in different systems.

So yes, heart is the centre, the spiritual heart.
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Old 13-12-2023, 03:07 PM
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There is just ONE SELF among the eight billion souls that live on this planet
Earth. Each one of us has ACCESS to this Absolute SELF. But very few take
the opportunity to realize this fundamental TRUTH.

Mostly because of gross ignorance of just who and what we really are, under
this FACADE OF FORM we call the human body vehicle.

We seem to be denied ACCESS to the Infinite SELF because we fail to
recognise its Divine PRESENCE within us all.



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Old 15-12-2023, 02:31 AM
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There is just ONE SELF ...
... its Divine PRESENCE within us all.
blessings michael.
Would you call it, the self/absolute, a void?
A void of anything that exists? A nothingness? An awareness of nothing?
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Old 15-12-2023, 02:44 PM
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Blessings EWWERRIN delighted by your question, "what would you call it"?

In truth EWWERRIN it matter not one JOT what we call that which just "IS"

Whatever we call it, does not change that which it "IS"

I like that of Absolute Intelligence. The ancient wisdom said that this Absolute
Eternal BEINGLESSBEING, their view was that it was "THAT which cannot
Be SAID or Known". I can go along with that as well.


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Old 16-12-2023, 03:41 AM
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Blessings EWWERRIN delighted ...
... that as well.
regards michael.
Oh cool. Thanks for sharing your view on this.

I can agree with that, but for some reason, some people say it cannot be known and yet they say it is an awareness or a consciousness.
While others say, no, consciousness or awareness is the very foundation of duality. So they say, the absolute is definitely not a consciousness.
While others very wise and intelligent beings say, no there is no such thing as unconsciousness.
And I don't know who to believe. They are both right. For example, we always will be a consciousness. So we might be dualistic beings. But maybe the unknowable core of who we are is unconscious. Or a consciousness of nothing.
They do say that the all knowing is still relative and dualistic. It is closer to the absolute, but the absolute is truely beyond any form or experience. And that it is the core of who we are. Eternal nothingness.That even while we are dreaming up all maya/relatives into being, we are still always eternally at our core the nothingness, unknowable being of unawareness or awareness of nothing.

And then also some people say that everything is an appearance, and appearantly, and nothing is what it seems. And consciousness is the only real illusion. the rest is just appearance. And there exists no such thing as real. And yet they deem themselves to be nothing, just like everything is nothing being everything. That everything is what it is, for no one. And for no reason or purpose. They don't exist, and are speaking from nothing and as nothing. And they deem this to be the ultimate truth for all beings. All beings not existing and being nothing. There being no individual self. Just an appearance. And that the absolute cannot be known. It is everything and nothing at the same time. Or something like that. And that there is no freewill, except the appearance of such.

That's about all the perspectives I know of. Some say it is the ultimate self. Others say it is ultimately no self.
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