my worst experience...spiritual war...

[doubleg35]

I have many, but I remember in sleep paralysis state I saw a black mist coming towards me. It had no human form just a black mist/cloud. Suddenly in the upper part of the mist it gave out a quick skeleton figure then went back to being a mist. It was getting closer and I started fighting it with what I was taught from religion. When it was near, it took out a black tube and place it on my abdomen and I felt my heartbeat go very fast and something made me blow wind at it with my mouth. It became white and backed off then became black again and was coming towards me again, I gained movement and could move again and it vanished...Was that a spiritual war?

[astralsuzy]

No, it is from your subconscious. If it happens again try not to fight it. Try to stay calm and relaxed. Try to accept it. It has happened to me plenty of times before. It cannot hurt you. If you want to ap you have to stay calm and relaxed. You do not need to do anything as it will happen by itself when you get sleep paralysis. If you talk to it the process will end.

I don’t see it as being a spiritual war. It could be some different things.

As astralsuzy notes, it could be manifesting a fear of yours. The solution for this is to move past fear into being confident of navigating the nonphysical realms. Organized religion teaches that nonphysical beings are stronger than us, but this is disinformation. Positive energy is MUCH stronger.

It could be stalled 4D jokers messing w/ you. Great fun for them. If this is the case, vet them & tell them to scram. This isn't a spiritual war. It's more like being pestered, even though it can scare us if we don't know we can tell them to scram.

There is a type of dream that is a virtual reality type of training dream exercise that we do w/ our spiritual team. Probably one of the specialists rather than our main guide(s). We use whatever images that are fearful for us to see if we maintain our frequency level, resisting falling into the fear mode. It is likely you got a telepathic message from the guide conducting the training session to blow it back w/ your breath. It is likely when you were empowered enough to use your breath to blow it back, this ended the experience as you successfully completed the energetic exercise.

Once just after I began to fall asleep I was in an interactive theta image & was told telepathically by the being in it to draw the image in the distance to me w/ my breath. I had no idea why, but I did as I was very comfortable w/ the being who have me the instructions.

Originally Posted by mattie

It could be stalled 4D jokers messing w/ you. Great fun for them. If this is the case, vet them & tell them to scram.

I read the vetting post and it was good for me to read because this type of thing used to happen to me all the time. After I started sensing other beings, I got a lot of low astral planed beings who would 'bother me', but I realised on my own that if I sent out a message telling them to go away they would always obey my wish.

I can think of a few times this happened, one time a being flew and peered into my face really close, and I told it to go and it left. One time this sort of child-like annoyance appeared to be following me, and it kept sending me messages, over and over again to 'let it come into my body.' Unfortunately I gave in and then it attached into my back! After that it seemed to be trying to do something devious to me, and I felt funny, so I imagined pushing it off using my intent to push it out of my energy field - then it got upset but it did leave me.

After that happened a spirit who kept visiting me (friendly one) told me that I had more power than I thought I had and that I could quite easily brush off some of those negative beings who were trying to play a trick on me. I realised pretty soon after that negative spirits couldn't do anything to me if I denied them access - and if one got into my field I would just have to imagine 'get out.' and within a few seconds they'd fly out and disappear. I've got to read more of your posts these are really interesting mattie. I like the phrase '4D jokers', haha.

There is one thing which bothered me quite a lot I shall quickly explain it here: Suddenly one time I could 'see' into this astral world which was very different to our own, I could see a void-like space with colourful patches. It was overall very empty, but I found some beings in this space and uhm, after I told my friend he got quite annoyed at me and told me to be very careful.

Basically I saw this being of light who was just watching me, and suddenly these wings came out of it, and it started flying away very fast, I followed it in my mind and tried to talk to it, but it sent me back a message saying to me 'don't talk to me.'

Then this other being appeared who seemed 'interested' in me, they gave off a charming glow, and seemed to have a light body... after talking to me a bit, I asked his name and he told me it was Astaroth (see I wrote it down as 'Asaroth' because the t was silent apparently) and then he asked me if he could do something to me? So I was like 'Okay' because he seemed friendly and then he kind of hugged my energy body a bit.

The next day we had these huge rain storms and thunderstorms.

What is rather creepy about this situation is that it felt a bit devious like I was being used for something bad...and after I told my real life friend about this, he pointed me to 'The Lesser Key of Solomon' and we found out his name was one of the 72 demons!!! What exactly was this about. Isn't that quite a freaky scenario?

Why would a spirit being which exudes charm and light refer to it's name confidently as a demon?

What bothers me is that this being did not radiate the usual fear/violence and selfishness intent I usually detect from a low-level being and was disguised as a being of light. Was this really a high level being or a true demon?

Then in that same astral layer, I saw a giant lion head watching me and then it tried to attack me, but this energy body flew out of me to protect me. Also when I tried to search for signs of life in that void-like place, I only found a strange planet full of black dogs, kind of like those slim bodied black hellhounds. Like this.

So then I was thinking where did my mind travel to? was this just the usual astral third-eye vision or did I go somewhere quite bad? My friend said it was a void between heaven and hell astral realms, and I never knew if this is true, but it seemed like a bad place to me. It felt like a vast empty void. What are peoples opinions about this incident?

[Amilius777]

All I gotta say is that there is some crazy a$$ stuff going down in the astral realm! That place is wacko sometimes.

Ever go to bed and wake up and see spiders around your room or some other type of creature? Yeah that is not your mind. Your subconscious receives information and projects it in your dreams not the other way around Mr. Scientist! (that wasn't directed to anybody lol, in general I meant :-)

Sometimes when we are coming out of sleep (the Astral Realm), we see astral forms. The astral world is like imagination land sometimes. Its where we usually dwell before we come into this incarnation. There are various levels of the astral realm. If you were under attack it was probably another one of those low level morons who escaped their karmic prison to mess around.

Many poltergeists are usually earthbound mischievous spirits who wandered out of their astral places.

But if you were awake and it had manifestations of your fears, it sounds like you were facing your own negative thought-form. They are sometimes called tolpas and we create them through energy and thought. Most crazy ultra religious folk think its always a "demon" in their house when it is usually a self-created energy form. Energy in spirit is not abstract like the material realm, energy in the astral especially takes forms according to the mind and is always manifested in archetypes. The material world and its energy is so abstract, boring, and realistic that it is fallen from that innocent state of everything manifesting to what it is.