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Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker
Likewise, when we say flow progression/flow of life etc., where is the fulcrum of our attention? Liken it to two people looking out of a window, seeing differently, feeling differently.
Unless we get to cessation (of mind-body/ thought) or as you say flow progression (from a centreless fulcrum), the narrow spectrum we experience is akin to a dead man walking.
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Preface: What follows
may or may not pertain to Unseeking Seeker. I do not know enough about him to venture an 'opinion'
either way in this regard. I am merely presenting a
hypothestical proposition in relation to the
ideas he has presented by way of his chosen
words.
Image:
What's 'in front of' the window of
your (anyone's) '
Seeing' '
Awareness' (whether 'it' is 'Unseeking' or not!
) ' =
this is 'the world'
as you 'see' it, this is
whatever you are 'Conscious' of.
What's 'behind' the window of
your (anyone's) '
Awareness' = 'the
self' that
you are,
whether you 'see' it
or not and/or
however you 'see'
it.
The thing about someone being 'thoughtless' or ceasing any mind-body connection or 'identification' that I take issue with is that such person is
still in '
the world' (which is
also my world, the reality
I and
others I know live 'in'!), so his or her disconnection (seeing and relating to the world and/or his or her 'self'
as just being a unreal 'dream') results in his or her
becoming what amounts to 'blind' and/or 'dead' 'weight' in it.
This is not someone I can enlist and engage in reliably reciprocal interaction with. Imagine being in and trying to go somewhere 'better' in a 'submarine' with a 'mate' who says the 'submarine' is
just a 'dream' and s/he ain't
real and/or
isn't really there
with 'me' and my 'other 'mates'.
It strikes me that 'torpedo tubes'
might provide way 'out' of said 'world' and 'society' for
such a person -
such '
cessation' (of response-ably reciprocal co-involved personal
presence) [a]is[/b] what I (rightly or wrongly ?) think such someones
are unfortunately
choosing to do, albeit in
very slow motion ('unfortunately', in terms of
my value scheme, for me and everyone
else).
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