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01-12-2019, 04:17 PM
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Gobekli Tepe: The World’s First Temple?
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...mple-83613665/
..."Predating Stonehenge by 6,000 years,"......
...."This shows sociocultural changes come first, agriculture comes later," says Stanford University archaeologist Ian Hodder, who excavated Catalhoyuk, a prehistoric settlement 300 miles from Gobekli Tepe.
...."You can make a good case this area is the real origin of complex Neolithic societies."
...What was so important to these early people that they gathered to build (and bury) the stone rings?"......
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01-12-2019, 04:49 PM
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Fascinating and interesting place to visit I'm sure.
This guy has 3 videos on the place. Not sure what you'll make of them, anyway, here's one of them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJTkRJMIvmY
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01-12-2019, 06:12 PM
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jb, the article I linked to they state how the limestone could have been easily cut by flint or other materials around by these prehistoric peoples.
As for lifting them into place, ropes would and leverage. Remmber Archimedes statement,...' give me a leverage long enough and I can move the Earth'...
Yes Archimedes didnt come along til 1000's of years later, but the principle of leverage holds true eternally an is not based on any one humans statements overtime.
I also watched the Vanoyich manscript. Again, nothern Italy and and specific carbon dated time period are where the answers can be found. May very well be a con man like Kelly in England. That would make lot of since.
W.C Fields once said, ...'there is a sucker born every minute or 5 minutes'... so this dude finds sucker of royal nature who has lots of money.
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05-12-2019, 03:10 PM
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................Space( Time *) i (* Time )Space..........
Urfa is near Gobekli Tepe.
https://www.ancient-origins.net/anci...litepe-0012722
..." A life-sized limestone statue found in Urfa, at the pond known as Balikli Göl, has been carbon-dated to 10,000 – 9,000 BC, making it the earliest known stone sculpture ever found. Its eyes are made of obsidian. "........
..."Obsidian is a naturally occurring volcanic glass formed as an extrusive igneous rock."...
...." This is what I also believe that the builders of Göbeklitepe wanted to attract the attention of the gods , above the stars, in order to interact with them. "......
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What is also clear that humans from 100 to 13,000 years ago had creative brain processing abilities.
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07-12-2019, 04:24 PM
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This is a great documentary that gives an impression about the start of civilization in the fertile crescent in the early Holocene. I think they deal with Gobekli Tepe too. It provides great insights into the why and how of early civilization.
Stories from the Stone Age (2,5 hours total):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7bq...B248CA3F85D500
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08-12-2019, 01:47 AM
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................Space( Time *) i (* Time )Space..........
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Originally Posted by Altair
This is a great documentary that gives an impression about the start of civilization in the fertile crescent in the early Holocene. I think they deal with Gobekli Tepe too. It provides great insights into the why and how of early civilization.
Stories from the Stone Age (2,5 hours total):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7bq...B248CA3F85D500
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Thanks Altair, I watched 1st episode.
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"My education has been of my biggest impediments to my learning"...A. Einstein
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10-12-2019, 01:57 AM
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One idea is that long ago there was a high tek society on earth but some thing happened ,war ,or a natural disaster . It got forgotten .
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10-12-2019, 05:21 AM
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One idea is that long ago there was a high tek society on earth but some thing happened ,war ,or a natural disaster . It got forgotten .
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Perhaps. I'm doubtful.
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10-12-2019, 08:03 AM
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One idea is that long ago there was a high tek society on earth but some thing happened ,war ,or a natural disaster . It got forgotten .
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This is my feeling too.
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10-12-2019, 12:24 PM
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
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I'm doubtful.
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Me too, R6. I don't see anything extraordinary or out of the picture in human history that can't be explained. If there's all this high tech from long ago then why hasn't it been found? We can find fossils of tiny animals hundreds of millions of years ago but not a single piece of this technology. That's remarkable.
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Thanks Altair, I watched 1st episode.
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You're welcome.
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