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Old 20-12-2011, 02:39 PM
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Healing Meditation.

People want wonderful spiritual experiences and fine, it's good to have some pleasure, but we can have pleasurable experiences and never resolve our problems.

I can take three of four tabs of LSD and have very vivid and surreal experiences, but surreal experiences can not resolve my problems.

It might be hard to understand, but it doesn't matter if experience is pleasurable or unpleasant. Meditation is the stillness of mind, not the experience perceived by it.

It isn't realistic to expect resolving problems will be particularly pleasant... yes there will be reward and love will flower where there was pain, but the process might be emotionally difficult. If it was easy there would be no problem ay?

It's like climbing a mountain. The trek hurts (but not in a harmful way) and when the summit is reached there is jubilation. You can be tired and sore, but that doesn't matter when you're on the summit.
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Old 20-12-2011, 06:29 PM
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There's a good article here on meditation and accepting all our experiences. We often get things that are very painful during meditation, and we need to learn to witness that:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...ney-relaxation
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Old 21-12-2011, 12:08 PM
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Excellent article oliness - thank you!
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Old 03-01-2012, 01:13 PM
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Nice article.

It is always said that 'whatever works for you' but sometimes a meditation makes you feel better for a while, then the old issue rears it's head again.

It like someone has maleria, so they take some asprin, the headache and the temperature dies down so the ill one says, 'this works for me', however, the cause was the maleria parasite which was not eradicated, so the symptoms soon return and that is how most so called 'healing meditations' are.

What works is a healing which goes to the cause, and by resolving the cause the symptoms disappear permanently.

What one needs is the ability to witness and calmly observe the whole process, for the healing is primarily an allowance, and the mere observation of what arizes also disolves it.

I have to plug my favorite video now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l-YYqjhVi4
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Old 03-01-2012, 11:31 PM
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Yes Gem, that is called mindfulness, awareness, or witnessing. That is very important. I also think that meditations which work directly with positive emotions - particularly loving-kindness and compassion meditations, are just as important. They directly help heal because they bring about states of well-being.
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Old 04-01-2012, 05:07 AM
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Yes Gem, that is called mindfulness, awareness, or witnessing. That is very important. I also think that meditations which work directly with positive emotions - particularly loving-kindness and compassion meditations, are just as important. They directly help heal because they bring about states of well-being.

It is helpful to invoke a feeling of well being... and mostly through the pure wish that all things are loved... such a loving is a kindness which soothes a person deeply as his purest intention isn't selfishly motivated, yet himself most benefits by this all encompassing compassion.

The inclusion of his enemies and those who offend him is effective in disolving long held grudges, and even deeper than forgiveness alone reaches, is the sincere wish that enemies are loved. That makes himself most worthy of it.

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Seek not what pleases yourself out of desire for what's pleasurable... this is not effective as pleasure merely passing. Maintain quiet in allowing pleasures, these come and go. No amount of effort can permanently retain it, so surrender now, as this persuit is so futile.

Feel no ill toward discomfort and emotional pain, it's like fine wine if only one touches it with their lips, savour and feel the most subtle nuance of it, and put aside preferences for now, just as monk would eat gladly what appears as a gift before him.
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