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View Poll Results: Is the moon there when you are not looking?
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Yes, the moon would still be there even if we all dissappeared.
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No, things are only there while being observed.
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07-03-2020, 02:27 PM
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"Why to you, of course. Would the world in which you experience your life. If created without any input from any of the senses, from birth, be a world without a single point."
"But you wouldn't know....."
Would one know that they do not know?
Would one know that they are at all?
How do I know that "I Am"?
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07-03-2020, 02:39 PM
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Master
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Originally Posted by ketzer
"Why to you, of course. Would the world in which you experience your life. If created without any input from any of the senses, from birth, be a world without a single point."
"But you wouldn't know....."
Would one know that they do not know?
Would one know that they are at all?
How do I know that "I Am"?
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Not without your senses... |
07-03-2020, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by sky123
Not without your senses...
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What senses the senses? |
07-03-2020, 04:24 PM
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Master
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Originally Posted by ketzer
What senses the senses?
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Peekaboo 
The senses. |
07-03-2020, 04:46 PM
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Master
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: The green & pleasant land
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If none of your senses are working, does your world still exist and evolve?
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I find it gets a bit claustrophobic thinking about it. I think the body would just be a brain and pumping heart. I'm not sure if the body would keep functioning for long, but I'm not quite sure why. There would be no personality or character able to evolve, and there would be nothing for the soul to experience.
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If none of your senses had been working from birth, would your world exist at all? If so, what would it be like?
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People that are deafblind are capable of smiling, which led me on to thinking, do babies smile because they've seen us smile, or does it happen naturally.
I think there's even more questions than answers here 
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07-03-2020, 07:54 PM
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Master
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The thing here is that the moon as a given example is present because the moon is a conscious aware entity in it's own right embodied by a spirit / soul just like all the planets are .
To suggest it may not exist if you do not entertain the sense of it falls short by a mile because one doesn't understand what the moon IS and all things are in relation to what we are fundamentally .
x daz x
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Everything under the sun is in tune,but the sun is eclipsed by the moon.
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07-03-2020, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sky123
Peekaboo
The senses. |
Well now, I don't know if or who makes sense here.
Anyway, we are caught in and eddy. Back to the OP.
Another question. If matter is not yet, but only probably so, in so so many possible ways, prior to observation, then where does the matter to make the senses come from so they can observe something?
 help! The mad scientists are trying to kill me.
Poor kitty, does it really have anything to worry about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTXTPe3wahc
Is it just me or do those look a bit like pot leaves behind him..... connection maybe??? |
07-03-2020, 08:12 PM
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Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
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Originally Posted by ketzer
Well now, I don't know if or who makes sense here.
Anyway, we are caught in and eddy. Back to the OP.
Another question. If matter is not yet, but only probably so, in so so many possible ways, prior to observation, then where does the matter to make the senses come from so they can observe something?
help! The mad scientists are trying to kill me.
Poor kitty, does it really have anything to worry about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTXTPe3wahc |
I thought you knew that this you-here is a projection of your inner-self ... Your outer senses too. They don't sense a reality that exists outside you. They interface with a virtual reality your subconscious co-creates. Matter is a virtual matter, like the one you "sense" in your dreams with your dream-senses.
There's no "eddy" ... if you don't already believe there is one!
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Everything expressed here is what I believe. Keep that in mind when you read my post, as I kept it in mind when I wrote it. I don't parrot others. Most of my spiritual beliefs come from direct channeling guidance. I have no interest in arguing whose belief is right, and whose is wrong. I'm here just to express my opinions, and read about others'.
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08-03-2020, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by inavalan
I thought you knew that this you-here is a projection of your inner-self ... Your outer senses too. They don't sense a reality that exists outside you. They interface with a virtual reality your subconscious co-creates. Matter is a virtual matter, like the one you "sense" in your dreams with your dream-senses.
There's no "eddy" ... if you don't already believe there is one!
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And yet there is a "moon" ..... if I am not here to believe there is one?
Where is the moon when there is no one here to co-create it?
What form does it take?
Is the "moon" "there" when we are looking at it? If so, what does that mean? |
08-03-2020, 05:26 PM
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Master
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This becomes a debate, and I am not interested in having one. Sorry.
After stating opinions, this discussion seems to slip into justifications, semantics, about hypotheticals beyond human rationalization.
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Everything expressed here is what I believe. Keep that in mind when you read my post, as I kept it in mind when I wrote it. I don't parrot others. Most of my spiritual beliefs come from direct channeling guidance. I have no interest in arguing whose belief is right, and whose is wrong. I'm here just to express my opinions, and read about others'.
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