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Old 18-02-2013, 08:38 AM
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Yep, that is true, like I said, find out for yourself.

You do it, I'm busy.
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Old 18-02-2013, 08:39 AM
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You do it, I'm busy.
He He, I have already done it.
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Old 18-02-2013, 08:40 AM
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He He, I have already done it.

Why ask me to do it then?

I mean Tell me to.
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Old 18-02-2013, 09:55 AM
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Why ask me to do it then?

I mean Tell me to.
Because you are a naughty boy, and you need to be told.

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Old 18-02-2013, 03:07 PM
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I was reading some Foucault who says that all reality is socially constructed and that there;s no such thing as human nature.
I tend to agree with this. Society reaches a definition of human nature e.g. the general psychological characteristics, feelings, and behavioral traits of humankind, regarded as shared by all humans. This reads like a consensus. The word 'general' and 'all' here indicate what may fall outside this definition. Not all humans would want to become a monk or nun, or be a murderer either.
So "human nature" is a generalised term only?
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Old 18-02-2013, 10:12 PM
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Let me broaden the question: what is nature? If we can define nature, is there any reason to make the distinction between nature and non-nature?
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Old 18-02-2013, 10:21 PM
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I don't see nature and human nature as the same thing at all. For instance, nature fits into ecology - we don't.
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Old 18-02-2013, 11:05 PM
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Because you are a naughty boy, and you need to be told.



You just used what I said about foucault to position yourself as preacher boy, and I don't like that, but if foucault is useless second hand news then what you say is too, by the same token.
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Old 18-02-2013, 11:13 PM
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I tend to agree with this. Society reaches a definition of human nature e.g. the general psychological characteristics, feelings, and behavioral traits of humankind, regarded as shared by all humans. This reads like a consensus. The word 'general' and 'all' here indicate what may fall outside this definition. Not all humans would want to become a monk or nun, or be a murderer either.
So "human nature" is a generalised term only?

It's how people perceive things in context of social norms, but normalcies aren't true, and even if they are, they weren't in the past, and won't be true in the future, what's normal here is not normal in another culture... it all changes and humans adapt, or if not, humans adapt the environment so that they can stay the same.
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Old 18-02-2013, 11:30 PM
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It's how people perceive things in context of social norms, but normalcies aren't true, and even if they are, they weren't in the past, and won't be true in the future, what's normal here is not normal in another culture... it all changes and humans adapt, or if not, humans adapt the environment so that they can stay the same.
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