ASK YOURSELF THE QUESTION.

[bobjob]

Originally Posted by ayar415

Are you convinced that you are a person inhabiting a human body?

No I'm not convinced of any such thing.

What I am totally comfortable with, however, is the notion of my being eternal and currently animating a physical body through which I presently express my individuality.

[bobjob]

Originally Posted by Starman

When does human life begin? Human life in the womb is defined by a fetal heartbeat. We used to refer to a baby who dies in their mother‘s womb as being “still born.” So the beginning of human life is often defined by the activity of the fetus. But this begs the question is a human zygote human life, or is a human embryo human life?

This whole subject is one I've pondered at length because my son was born but died at the same point. The topics of termination, stillbirth and neo-natal death, and the debates that go along with them, have been my constant companions.

Addressing the points in your final question then, my answers are all the same - I'm still unsure at exactly what point 'life' begins for the baby-to-be. And at which point an animating spirit becomes completely associated with its new physical body.

I still find these notions very interesting but probably unable to be explained completely in this world. So I make do with an incomplete understanding and that works well-enough for me.

The soul enters a baby anytime from conception to a few days after birth.

neil,I remember my whole birth process,as writtain in the my space section somewhere.I joined the body just before birth,as I was delivered with the help of scalpels i thought I would have a long head.This may seem funny bur I imagined myself with a GREEN body and a long head.
This is not up for discussion as I know this to be true.

[neil]

Originally Posted by hazada guess

The soul enters a baby anytime from conception to a few days after birth.

Not so. The parents conceive life, only because there is a soul instantly available. Without the soul their can be no conception.

There has to be a soul connected to the embryo. Other wise the embryo can not viable. Once the connection between embryo & soul is severed , the pregnancy is lost. Same as after the birth of the child, infant, adult. Severe the connection and the physical body will start the process of decomposition. And life seemlessly continues on in Spirit.

Life starts off from the spark of conception. Zero awareness at conception, grows & forms into an awareness slowly, as the neural pathways form.

Persons that believe that they can remember their conception, birth etc, are fooled into believing that they can, by low level dark minded spiritual being's.

[neil]

Originally Posted by hazada guess

neil,I remember my whole birth process,as writtain in the my space section somewhere.
This is not up for discussion as I know this to be true.

Yes I read that post. & you will have a completely different belief after you are liberated from the flesh.
& you will find that it will be up for discussion after you have been liberated from the flesh, because that is when you will find out the truth of the deception, that is perpetrated by dark minded spiritual beings.
You will be begging spiritual beings to discuss it with you.

You have these feelings, memories etc, & you have no idea whether they are truth or fabrications of untruths. Though you take it as truth..Hook, line & sinker.

Sorry niel,not up for discussion.(Its a big multiverse out there).

ps.I was a rush job, Mum had a miscarriage before I came along.

[bobjob]

The soul enters a baby anytime from conception to a few days after birth.

Yes indeed and the final commitment, the exact point of total interpenetration will likely vary from individual to individual.

But it's not so much entering as progressively engaging-with all the parts and systems of the tiny entity it has chosen to animate to maturity. (all being well)

I visualise the process of one of integration and familiarisation with the soon-to-be seen, immature physical body along with the invisible processes that will run 'in the background' for the period of that body's existence. All have to be animated.

[bobjob]

Originally Posted by neil

It is all spiritual influence, trickery. Simple low level abilities of dark minded ex physical beings perpetrated against earthlings.

Not that i expect that the above will generate much of an interest, as per usual.

You're certainly right in respect of myself.

I might have responded, though, if there weren't so much - less is more in such situations.

[bobjob]

Originally Posted by neil

Not so. The parents conceive life, only because there is a soul instantly available. Without the soul their can be no conception..

I can go with that.....