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31-12-2011, 04:13 PM
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Master
Join Date: Jan 2011
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well gee, if you're going to worry about being deceived by intelligent evil forces out to steal your soul you might want to worry that the Bible itself is a clever Satan deception. after all, human blood sacrifice and symbolic cannibalism is rather Satanic. dontcha think?
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31-12-2011, 05:52 PM
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The devil isn't interested in you.
He doesn't want your worship or devotion, he doesn't care if you love him or not. He never tests you or expects you to kill your only child to prove your love and devotion.
The devil never brought the flood to the world and attempted to kill all humanity.
He never destroyed two thriving cities, he didn't order his servants to smear lambs blood above the doors of his followers so they wouldn't have their children killed in his rage for blood.
He never took credit for the existance of humanity. Considering even the bible says there was already someone here.
What did god give humanity? death, pain, suffering, and with held knowledge of good and evil from us, so we would remain dupes to our own existance and potential. Then kicked us out of eden for fear we would become as gods and live forever.
The devil's followers gave many things to humanity. The first of these gifts was makeup, then metal working, astrology, mathematics and science. What did the angels give us? Nothing, yet we call on their kind every day and revile those that gave us everything.
That very brain that you used to think up this question, was developed using the gifts of education given to you by the devils followers.
How did god educate you? with rules and supression, with a monotheistic view point in a paternalistic indoctrination.
The devil never did any of these things, but god did... The devil isn't your enemy.
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31-12-2011, 07:16 PM
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./facedesk Look are we back to the burning times? Why dont we bring torches to all mediums and stone them and drown them just to make sure your not being influenced by the Devil? These are people the devil has nothing to do with it . Heres a news flash many of us doesnt even believe in the devil.
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31-12-2011, 09:58 PM
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Thankyou everybody for your replies.
A good variety of answers and I will go over them all again and take in what you have written.
I have done a lot of study into the afterlife so I am not denying its existence, it is just that I wonder if the Bible has it right.
So I am 50/50 on this.
Also it will be interesting to see what the Mayan 2012 prophesy will turn out to be.....
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01-01-2012, 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Occultist
./facedesk Look are we back to the burning times? Why dont we bring torches to all mediums and stone them and drown them just to make sure your not being influenced by the Devil? These are people the devil has nothing to do with it . Heres a news flash many of us doesnt even believe in the devil.
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Love the facepalm Jesus....I might use that one..
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01-01-2012, 01:40 AM
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Supposing this was a deception from Satan, even then, why do you worry so much? After all, you have done nothing wrong. If you believe in Satan, I assume you believe in God too. If Satan is deceiving you now then what's to say that he wasn't deceiving you when your loved ones were alive !
In my opinion, there can be nothing beyond God (if you believe in God) and if Satan is able to lure you away from God through no fault of your own, then why would you believe in God in the first place. I believe that energies such as Satan only reflect your own fears and if you place your trust in positive, the outcome will manifest as positive. I hope this makes sense. If God was testing your faith (with the help of Satan) but unwilling to forgive, then such a God would be unworthy of being God by very definition of God. I wish you well :-).
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01-01-2012, 03:11 AM
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Master
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Australia
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There is no god, no devil, and no Jesus, so enjoy your life.
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A belief system is nothing but poison to your capacity to understand. Good words are used to hide ugly things. – Osho
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01-01-2012, 04:16 AM
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Thanks Himalia for your post.
I don't in as much fear satan but am terrified of the possible outcome.
What I mean is, if I become involved in things eg Medium Readings, EVP etc and it does turn out to be all lies from satan and his bunch of merry men.
I would have been aware that it went against Biblical teachings in the first place.
And therefore for example wouldnt I be judged come Judgement Day and be cast into Hell.
So yeah what I am terrified of is the fact I could spent all of my Eternity in a red hot burning fire and that worries me so much.
I wonder if there is anybody else who worries about this like I do.
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01-01-2012, 04:47 AM
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Ascender
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: The Milky Way... usually
Posts: 735
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elaine and D
...I have done a lot of study into the afterlife so I am not denying its existence, it is just that I wonder if the Bible has it right.
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Once you realize that the answer to that is NO, then life becomes much more full of Love, and Hope, and Joy instead of Fear and Doubt and Sin. But you have to make that decision for yourself. Others may try to influence in many tools, the most common being fear. You have to listen to the Love that's in your own heart.
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Originally Posted by Elaine and D
Thanks Himalia for your post.
I don't in as much fear satan but am terrified of the possible outcome.
What I mean is, if I become involved in things eg Medium Readings, EVP etc and it does turn out to be all lies from satan and his bunch of merry men.
I would have been aware that it went against Biblical teachings in the first place.
And therefore for example wouldnt I be judged come Judgement Day and be cast into Hell.
So yeah what I am terrified of is the fact I could spent all of my Eternity in a red hot burning fire and that worries me so much.
I wonder if there is anybody else who worries about this like I do.
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The main thing I'd say to this is that you should stop making decisions based on FEAR. God is Love, make your decisions based on LOVE, not fear. Then you'll started freeing yourself from fear.
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Those without a sense of humor are at the mercy of the rest of us.
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01-01-2012, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Elaine and D
Thanks Himalia for your post.
I don't in as much fear satan but am terrified of the possible outcome.
What I mean is, if I become involved in things eg Medium Readings, EVP etc and it does turn out to be all lies from satan and his bunch of merry men.
I would have been aware that it went against Biblical teachings in the first place.
And therefore for example wouldnt I be judged come Judgement Day and be cast into Hell.
So yeah what I am terrified of is the fact I could spent all of my Eternity in a red hot burning fire and that worries me so much.
I wonder if there is anybody else who worries about this like I do.
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