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Old 03-06-2012, 04:47 PM
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Why does God allow mass extinction of human life?

While the evidence for life after death seems compelling to me personally, I'm troubled by seemingly contradictory evidence that sometimes either God or the universe doesn't care about earthly life. I specifically make reference to "natural" events like earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, epidemics and so on that claim mass causalities. Take for example the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake that claimed 230,000 lives in 14 countries. Such an event should have been predictable to both those in the higher spheres and God. From what I've read in many after-death books, that the worst thing you can do is cut another life short in their earthly life. Personal suicide is a big no-no and all life is sacred. Yet, wholesale slaughter obviously happens on earth on a regular basis. Why is there no mass warning from spiritual guides or from any credible earthly source to prevent such events?

There seems to be an issue of spiritual responsibility here. Inaction for an event is no excuse for a serious consequence. If I sold you a car that I knew to be unsafe and possibly deadly and you lost your life in an accident because of using that car, I share the responsibility for what happened. So who picks up the ticket for these horrific mass extinctions of human life?
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Old 03-06-2012, 05:34 PM
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There have been spiritual guide warnings and many people did flee, avoid getting on planes or entering building on 9/11. There are numerous other instances in which people have avoided these situations, through intuition, gut instinct, spirit guides, whatever you want to call them. Also, animals have fled before tsunami's reached their destination and I'm pretty sure very few of them perished.

I agree with you about responsibility. When a tornado strikes and destroys entire towns and kills people, yet the townsfolk choose to rebuild there, whose responsibility is it? The earth is a living, moving thing and we need to respect that.

So who picks up the ticket? I would think both the God/Universe and us as humans. The Universe is doing what is always has, changing and moving. Sometimes, unfortunately, we live in those places and things happen.

I don't mean to seem cold but this has been happening since the beginning of time and will continue until the end.
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Old 04-06-2012, 01:21 AM
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There have been spiritual guide warnings and many people did flee, avoid getting on planes or entering building on 9/11. There are numerous other instances in which people have avoided these situations, through intuition, gut instinct, spirit guides, whatever you want to call them. Also, animals have fled before tsunami's reached their destination and I'm pretty sure very few of them perished.

I agree with you about responsibility. When a tornado strikes and destroys entire towns and kills people, yet the townsfolk choose to rebuild there, whose responsibility is it? The earth is a living, moving thing and we need to respect that.

So who picks up the ticket? I would think both the God/Universe and us as humans. The Universe is doing what is always has, changing and moving. Sometimes, unfortunately, we live in those places and things happen.

I don't mean to seem cold but this has been happening since the beginning of time and will continue until the end.

Agreed.

It's nothing to do with God. When Humans place an expectation on what they have read as their "Father" who's supposed to love and protect them experience global catastrophic events/natural disasters, they immediately turn to God to question "Why". This is due to their emotional responses from a compassionate standpoint, yet there is no "God/Father" as they have perceived to be listening to their "Why's". That is one of the reasons why I have an issue with this misinterpretation of God.

True strength is found from the ability to be resilient with acceptance and understanding of the bigger picture when it comes to the planetary/Universal etc movements. Earth cleanses itself on a cyclic basis, and like Jo said, Gaia leaves many hints and messages along the way.
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:13 AM
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There have been spiritual guide warnings and many people did flee, avoid getting on planes or entering building on 9/11. There are numerous other instances in which people have avoided these situations, through intuition, gut instinct, spirit guides, whatever you want to call them. Also, animals have fled before tsunami's reached their destination and I'm pretty sure very few of them perished.

I agree with you about responsibility. When a tornado strikes and destroys entire towns and kills people, yet the townsfolk choose to rebuild there, whose responsibility is it? The earth is a living, moving thing and we need to respect that.

So who picks up the ticket? I would think both the God/Universe and us as humans. The Universe is doing what is always has, changing and moving. Sometimes, unfortunately, we live in those places and things happen.

I don't mean to seem cold but this has been happening since the beginning of time and will continue until the end.


I believe this. Yes, fair enough humans are more than just beasts (or rather they CAN be more than beasts), but nonetheless we are not exempt from the Circle of Life.
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Old 03-06-2012, 06:14 PM
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Now who was it?!
Darn...some yogi type person said...

God was like a little boy playing in a garden.

Now we all know what little boys do!
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IMO god doesn't allow it or disallow it.
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:16 AM
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IMO god doesn't allow it or disallow it.

I agree with this, too... Even if this world were devoid of humans, earthquakes, tsunamis, would still happen.

Now as for terrorism, massacres, etc... Well obviously if the world were devoid of humans that won't happen, so that's obviously on us...

It's like that one time you did something wrong --- why did God allow you to do that?

So no I don't think he allows/disallows...
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:23 AM
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Now as for terrorism, massacres, etc... Well obviously if the world were devoid of humans that won't happen, so that's obviously on us...

I have seen a documentary where one tribe (kind) of ants took the other tribes ant as slave with the help of a chemical attack. Furthermore they took the eggs and also raised those ants as slaves for their own colony. Just to add some perspective
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:33 AM
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I have seen a documentary where one tribe (kind) of ants took the other tribes ant as slave with the help of a chemical attack. Furthermore they took the eggs and also raised those ants as slaves for their own colony. Just to add some perspective

Oh yes yes!! I have read about that. It seems you are right, it doesn't just happen to us... I also read about this queen ant who pretends to be dead, then when an opossing colony takes her to the den, she kills the queen and dresses herself with her shell, and then the other ants will help her lay eggs while thinking she is their queen... Then the babies she produces grow up and destroy that entire colony...

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Old 04-06-2012, 03:03 AM
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Oh yes yes!! I have read about that. It seems you are right, it doesn't just happen to us... I also read about this queen ant who pretends to be dead, then when an opossing colony takes her to the den, she kills the queen and dresses herself with her shell, and then the other ants will help her lay eggs while thinking she is their queen... Then the babies she produces grow up and destroy that entire colony...

So we have finally found a specie as devious as the humans
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