Can a truly spiritual person eat meat?

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by Gem

I just wonder if an ethic which is only plausible within a destructive system actually addresses the deeper ethical issues of the systems themselves.

'Ethics' are (or IMO should just be) 'principles' aimed at maximizing the experience and expression of Love and Joy in whatever context one 'finds' oneself in. If one actually lives in a 'subsistence' community, on a rural farm or in 'the wild' as a 'hunter gatherer' say, then the 'principles' I speak of would result in quite different decisions than if you lived in the context of a 'mass' culture such as most people do at present.

Where do you actually (really) live and which kind of people do your think you are you actually talking to I wonder, Gem?

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by knightoflenity

Are you the better man here - it's win win if you apologise?.

Believe it or not, o' would-be-'knight'ly person, : there is a 'method' in what appears to you to be my madness when dealing with folks (like you and the one who thinks, feels and believes and so pro-claims he is really 'Lucky') who think, feel and act like they are "know it all's" which kind of delusion can be completely closed-cycle self-reinforcing (like Mussolini's among other historically prominent figures).

The fact (in my view, that is) is the world (the Life that I am part of and love, which includes him and you believe it or not) is the 'poorer' (and in that sense, and only in that sense) 'loses' as a result of such kind of 'delusionality' being 'allowed' to run around in unconfronted fashion.

By the way, that is all that I am doing (in relation to the likes of you and him, that is ): confronting you with a 'vision' that doesn't simply bend-n-roll-over-freeride-grant 'respectability' to the likes of yours.

[Raziel]

Originally Posted by davidsun

bend-n-roll-over-freeride-grant 'respectability' to the likes of yours.

When I read the things you write I hear Alan Rickman narrating it in my head ...



I bet your really nice in person, your writing is just confusing so it seems aggressive.

When you read #304 your gonna feel so silly


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[7luminaries]

Originally Posted by Kioma

Let's hope it doesn't come to that! The future is going to be different from now - VERY different - but let's hope it's not intolerable. Let's hope we actually make some progress, that through it all we are able to emphasize our humanity, and all this knowledge, science and intellect doesn't count for nothing.

Agreed - let's hope on all counts there.

Peace & blessings
7L

[7luminaries]

Originally Posted by knightoflenity

When I read the things you write I hear Alan Rickman narrating it in my head ...



I bet your really nice in person, your writing is just confusing so it seems aggressive.

When you read #304 your gonna feel so silly


.

LOL!!! Now I'm hearing it too!!! What have ye done now?


Peace & blessings,
7L

Originally Posted by knightoflenity

When you read #304 your gonna feel so silly
.

Don't you just hate it when you reach out to someone and they are like "You're implacable! ". :(
Makes you think some people just don't listen.

[Gem]

Originally Posted by davidsun

'Ethics' are (or IMO should just be) 'principles' aimed at maximizing the experience and expression of Love and Joy in whatever context one 'finds' oneself in. If one actually lives in a 'subsistence' community, on a rural farm or in 'the wild' as a 'hunter gatherer' say, then the 'principles' I speak of would result in quite different decisions than if you lived in the context of a 'mass' culture such as most people do at present.

That's why vege moralism isn't ethical in a universal sense. I concur that the vege/vegan ethical argument is plausible and valid within the modern agricultural context. The pretense that veg diet indicates some sort of spiritual height is pretty pretentious, though, because then we're speaking universals and not cultural contexts - and as you point out, veg dieting isn't universally applicable.

Where do you actually (really) live

Sydney

and which kind of people do your think you are you actually talking to I wonder, Gem?

Nutty people on the internet teehee.





It would be better for me if you didn't underline so often. It's really not necessary and it makes it harder to read.

[davidsun]

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[davidsun]

Originally Posted by Kioma

For yourself? For humanity? For the universe?

Just curious.

Short answer: All of the above and more - because Life (God, Creativity, whatever you want to call it) is more than 'me', 'humanity', and the 'universe'.

Please know that I very much appreciate the earnestness of your quest, Kioma. My heart 'nature'ally opens youward.

You may enjoy visiting my website, the link to which is included in my signature line, where longer 'answers' to the above Qs may be found.

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by 7luminaries

Agreed - let's hope on all counts there.

Peace & blessings
7L

Ditto - to Kioma.