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Old 05-04-2012, 05:36 PM
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It seems that there are a few things forgotten in this whole conversation.

Any information "based" on "ancient celtic" lore (celtic being the traditional UK peoples) is to be taken with a grain of salt. There is a tiny fraction of a percentage of "proper" evidence of celtic lifestyle, and IIR, the same is said with germanic (them being eastern european). You cant say anything about them with even 50% accuracy, unless you hold true to what ceasar and his generals wrote and 100% truth.


"Germanic" and "Celt" are blanket terms used for a multitude of european tribes, and throw pagan into it, it gets more confusing (pagan now generally ANYTHING other then monotheism). WHy paint everything with a broad brush? You cant expect every single european civilization to practice the exact same festivals, even the "same" peoples varied in tradition. Look at ancient egypt and greece, whose different states and territories practiced different traditions, with the same gods.

I do belive it is admited, that the creators of the wheel of the year (sometime in the 50s IIR), that they brought together what they could gather of all the indo european traditions that survived, and collaborated that into what we now assume is "paganism/wicca/occult" etc. How can you say that it is any one tradition? How can you say it is "traditional"?

Now, christianity, was birthed around paganism. It doesnt take a genious to understand that it would have INFLUENCE on christian traditions. COuple that with the original christianity (pre councils) which was enourmously varied, and the fact that traditions vary due to isolation, things will get mixed.

There are touches of SUmarian, Babylonian, Roman, Persian, and Egyptian traditions alluded to in the bible, but does that mean that they ARE indeed the same traditions, or stolen or any of the like? No. CHristianity dirived from judeaism, which was born from middle eastern "pagan" traditions (which were influenced by, guess who? Babylon, Egypt and the rest of the countries and civilizations in proximity to modern day isreal.

IT all boils down to this:

Since the majority of ancient civs used stars to some extent in their day to day life, they would see the same thing, over a wide area. The odds are, some one is going to have a similar day of worship, becaus ethey are based on the same astrological movement. Easter, astronolically, has to do with the full moon. Our easter day, is still determined by the lunar calander.

Indo european days of worship are usually argiculturally bound (food is life). Easter, which is dirived from PASSOVER, which was dirived by traditional "isreali (cannonite) worship, which was infulenced by cultures, that influenced eachother, and the entire mediterranean abound. There is a large difference between the 2 traditions, which generally never met (besides by trade).
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