2nd Coming of Christ. Has it happened already ?

HI Sprinter,

I'm sorry if it is still not clear.. I thought it is self-evident..

When you talk about reincarnation, you're talking about the same Soul taking on a new body, a different body then the one last used, presumbably, already dead..

This is what is meant by reincarnation and "come again" refers to that.. If you see some obituary of famous monks / lamas etc you will see someone wish that monk to "reincarnate" or "come again" in order to help liberate sentient beings. This is because of the tradition for bodhisatvas to make great vows to liberate sentient beings..

So if Jesus were to appear amongst us as us... i.e. as a human being, then he is proving reincarnation to disbelievers.. Similar to the way some monks/lamas prove reincarnation by continuing in the same work done in past lives.. e.g. Dalai Lama 14, the story of a famous Chinese poet being reincarnated etc. etc.

Bottom line is : To hope for 2nd Coming of Christ is to believe in reincarnation.
Even if you are not aware of it, that is actually what you believe.

So you cannot hope for 2nd Coming, without believing reincarnation is true, or else, how is Chriist going to appear ? You just shut him out of your world !

[Lightspirit]

I got my ticket to the next rapture. when did that yank pastor say it was again?lol the one who got it wrong last month.

[Triner]

Originally Posted by psychoslice

The Christ has always been here, the Christ is within you, when you realize this the Christ will for you, be there in all of its glory, there dark clouds of the mind that kept this from you has now departed and from the clouds the coming of the lord is seen, when we all finally realize this, then we can say the all will see the brightness of his coming, he will then dwell on the earth in every heart, then will heaven be established right here, right where you are NOW.

+1 That's what I think too.

Originally Posted by lucky

Some Christians wait at hills at appointed times, looking to the sky, fully expecting an army of angels descending in bring light with their Lord in the middle..

Or will Christ choose a less dramatic and more "normal" method of being born again.. like the reincarnation of famous lamas / monks ?

Has the Lord in fact already arrived here on Earth ? By all accounts the Earth is indeed in very difficult times now, with disasters/diseases threatening the environment and life itself and the planet's survival being pushed to the brink. If Christ does not come now, it will be too late perhaps..

The 2nd coming has not yet happened, when it happens you will know it. The Bible tells us that every eye will see Him and everyone will know that He is Lord. He is coming this time to judge the world and destroy the wicked.

He came as a lamb the last time, but this time He will come with the sword of justice and cleanse the world from all evil.

[innerlight]

Originally Posted by LisaLisa

The 2nd coming has not yet happened, when it happens you will know it. The Bible tells us that every eye will see Him and everyone will know that He is Lord. He is coming this time to judge the world and destroy the wicked.

He came as a lamb the last time, but this time He will come with the sword of justice and cleanse the world from all evil.

If he destroyed the wicked then he would destroy God... For there is no-thing that is not God.

Originally Posted by innerlight

If he destroyed the wicked then he would destroy God... For there is no-thing that is not God.

He's going to destroy the wicked people, the people who refuse to do what's right.

There are people who love what is evil, people who love to hurt others, who take delight in causing others pain and suffering. I know it's hard to imagine, but there are people like this..........people who don't care about anyone but themselves and what fuels their sick desires.

[innerlight]

Originally Posted by LisaLisa

He's going to destroy the wicked people, the people who refuse to do what's right.

There are people who love what is evil, people who love to hurt others, who take delight in causing others pain and suffering. I know it's hard to imagine, but there are people like this..........people who don't care about anyone but themselves and what fuels their sick desires.

If he were to destroy the wicked people he would then break his own rule of love thy neighbor as thy would love thyself. And would also break the commandment thou shalt not kill.

Those "wicked" people are individuals that have become lost from experiences that have happened to them throughout their life. What they have become is a result of pain and suffering they have endured, or have had inflicted on them. Mainly from abuse.

[Internal Queries]

methinks if The Christ were ever to "return" those who profess to await "his" arrival will be the first to reject "his" new manifestation since it's unlikely to fit their criterias. if the newly manifested symbol of The Christ isn't what they expect they won't recognize it and probably even want to kill it since superstition would necessarily cause fear and hatred of that which they'd fail to accept as Truth.

"testing testing 1 2 3"

why some folks imagine they can dictate to "God" how "God" will manifest The Self is a mystery to me.

Originally Posted by innerlight

If he were to destroy the wicked people he would then break his own rule of love thy neighbor as thy would love thyself. And would also break the commandment though shalt not kill.

Those "wicked" people are individuals that have become lost from experiences that have happened to them throughout their life. What they have become is a result of pain and suffering they have endured, or have had inflicted on them. Mainly from abuse.

God gave us rules to live by so that we could live in peace and harmony with eachother, and this would be pleasing to God. These were rules for us to follow. These aren't rules for God to follow.....He is the creator of the entire universe and everything in it. He gives life, and He can take it away because it belongs to Him in the first place, He has the right, He makes the rules. We are "guests" in His house, this earth was created by Him, it belongs to Him.

Once we start to tell God how He should do things, that's when we are trying to make ourselves equal with Him and that's what Satan tried to do right before He fell from grace.

[theophilus]

Originally Posted by lucky

So you cannot hope for 2nd Coming, without believing reincarnation is true, or else, how is Chriist going to appear ? You just shut him out of your world !

Acts 1:9-11 shows how Christ will appear:

And when he had said these things, as they were looking on, he was lifted up, and a cloud took him out of their sight. And while they were gazing into heaven as he went, behold, two men stood by them in white robes, and said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.”

After his crucifixion his body was raised from the dead and when he returns it will be in that same body. All of us will experience the resurrection of the bodies we are living in now. Some will be raised to enter eternal life and some for eternal punishment. Obviously is there is a resurrection of the body reincarnation is impossible because them each of us would have more than one body.