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Old 20-03-2019, 04:19 AM
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to compromise or to not.

my thoughts on the journey. only speaking for myself.

the outcome. what one gets out of it. has to do with what one puts into it. if the focus is on the objective. not being compromised by the other. the easier to obtain the objective.


for example. a thought experiment.


why is beliefs a problem if the focus is on the objective?

why is fomo a problem if the focus is on the objective?

why is what someone may think a problem if my focus is on the objective?

why is the circumstances a problem if my focus is on the objective?

why is what i think a problem if the focus us on the objective?
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Old 20-03-2019, 04:29 AM
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meditation is the ultimate tool for putting the focus squarely on the objective.
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Old 20-03-2019, 05:23 AM
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Not sure what you mean by "objective" ... a "goal", or the antonym of "subjective"?

If you mean "goal", I think the problem are the emotions.
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What if the objective is the discovery of a mystery
Wherein memory drawn thought is an impediment, being history?

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Old 20-03-2019, 11:22 AM
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Not sure what you mean by "objective" ... a "goal", or the antonym of "subjective"?

If you mean "goal", I think the problem are the emotions.


why is emotions a problem if the focus is on the objective?

the objective is god. what is discovered at some point is causeless, endless joy and silence. that can not be blocked by what ever it may be
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What if the objective is the discovery of a mystery
Wherein memory drawn thought is an impediment, being history?

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i never seen anything that can impede joy and silence. once the objective is discovered. the mystery i found on my journey. i am only speaking for me. although from what i have gathered is its common to come to that at some point.

and it is a mystery. often sold in ways to control the people. which makes it so. a mystery. hopefully not always. or forever.
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my thoughts on the journey. only speaking for myself.

the outcome. what one gets out of it. has to do with what one puts into it. if the focus is on the objective. not being compromised by the other. the easier to obtain the objective.


for example. a thought experiment.


why is beliefs a problem if the focus is on the objective?

why is fomo a problem if the focus is on the objective?

why is what someone may think a problem if my focus is on the objective?

why is the circumstances a problem if my focus is on the objective?

why is what i think a problem if the focus us on the objective?

So the less you take notice of your mind and emotions the more your being can arise most naturally as a whole body awareness.

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Old 20-03-2019, 10:03 PM
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So the less you take notice of your mind and emotions the more your being can arise most naturally as a whole body awareness.

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i will say i dont know? simply because im just attempting to communicate my practice from a mental level.

what i can say for me is putting god for lack of a better word as the primary focus helps me a lot. the acceptance of what is and being ok helps make a place for it.

as tbings are now bliss and silence are no longer by choice but effortless so i could i guess care less about tools used to get to that. but i do care. and believe or notice that it helps to continue to put god first to help go further, faster in depth.

so i want go say yes. but based on my personal experince.

i wish to add allowing one to feel and experince emotions helps clear them out. helping to make an opening. which for me anyways is easier to do with a strong focus on god.
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Old 20-03-2019, 11:09 PM
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i will say i dont know? simply because im just attempting to communicate my practice from a mental level.

what i can say for me is putting god for lack of a better word as the primary focus helps me a lot. the acceptance of what is and being ok helps make a place for it.

as tbings are now bliss and silence are no longer by choice but effortless so i could i guess care less about tools used to get to that. but i do care. and believe or notice that it helps to continue to put god first to help go further, faster in depth.

so i want go say yes. but based on my personal experince.

i wish to add allowing one to feel and experince emotions helps clear them out. helping to make an opening. which for me anyways is easier to do with a strong focus on god.

So if you look at god as being within you, what are you actually focusing on in your way of saying-“put god first”

I suppose I should ask. What is god to you?
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Old 20-03-2019, 11:40 PM
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i wish to add allowing one to feel and experince emotions helps clear them out. helping to make an opening. which for me anyways is easier to do with a strong focus on god.

Regression hypnotherapy solves emotional problems by having the subject re-experience the causing situations, but from a spectator point of view. That allows the subject to react differently, have closure, and leave the situation and emotions behind.
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