The 2 realms of All

[norseman]

Originally Posted by Neville

I wonder if there is a middle ground.

Two ways to go on that one, Neville.
Either, start with empirical observations and derive the theoretical from it.
OR start with a theory and seek to prove it by experiment and observation.

The old "80 - 20 rule" will apply

norseman : my point is that non-energetic things, immaterial things, exist "alongside" energetic things, but they are not "located", they are formless. The word "alongside" is maybe wrong, and I'm sorry for being French lol

Maybe a precise word for this would be "intricated". Superposed, linked in the Absolute, etc.

One thing I've noticed is that it's hard for our brain to understand the concept of non-locality, which is essential to that of immateriality. For us, a "thing" is "somewhere". Therefore, we might understand what the immaterial realm is, but then we tend to make it "real" for us by bringing it down to materality, the only thing we directly experience, and we call it "invisible" or "energetic", but in fact, it's not invisible, it's "non-visible" which is a different concept.

By bringing down the immaterial realm into our definition or experience of space and time, we create itermediate energetic worlds, exactly like our dreams are. Beliefs of any kind, bring people to build such worlds with their linked thoughts, they collectively create what they call heaven, or hell. And this collective creation of humanity, influences the energetic world we really live in.

It is said that God is everywhere, if you think about this immaterial realm, and if God is the Absolute Being where every Absolute exists, then it's understandable somehow. The Light, which is the "breath of God", "Divine Intelligence", Absolute Truth, "flows" in the world, everywhere, and energy adapts to it, exists because of it, and if we succeed in adapting our thoughts to welcome de Divine Truth into our Spirit, then the awakening process begins.

[norseman]

One other thought, Lightful. The "ancients" never made a distinction between energetic and non-energetic. It was just considered as a whole. Even modern Physics postulates that Matter and Energy are interchangeable.

norseman : it's not because the energetic realm and the immaterial realm are different that they don't form a whole.

Besides, it seems to me that matter is energy, don't you think ? So when talking about energy, or matter, it's the same underlying concept : locality.

[norseman]

It is not an easy concept. It is one that man has struggled with eternally, it seems, especially when you bring in the Mind and Spirit. Where are they located ? Answer - everywhere and nowhere.

Energetic -v- nonenergetic could come down to wavelength or frequency of vibration.

Mind, Being, Higher Self, Spirit, Soul, what are the differences ? This is not the point here.

The thing is that those realms are not "one against another". They are interleaved in the Absolute, Divinely and Perfectly superposed, parallel but not side by side in space, but side by side in Existence, they really form a Whole together. Communication between one realm to another, is done through vibrations. From the energetic to the immaterial realm this vibration is called "information", and from the immaterial to the energetic realm this vibration is called "manifestation".

It's wrong to say that immaterial "things" are located everywhere and nowhere. Because again, it's bringing the immaterial realm back to locality, and trying to explain, in terms of localisation, "where" the immaterial things are. But there is no "where", they just ARE.

Two entities is what I believe we have. One.Light second..darkness. Earth in the middle because both entities have free reign on earth. You wont find darkness in Higher dimensions like u wont find Light in the lower. Ppl alive in flesh are in the middle

So we are subject to both decide for ourselves which is best for us. Some prefer darkness so their access is darkness and some prefer Light and their access is Light. Just depends who u ask.
GTG

Toolite : you say that you won't find "darkness" in higher dimensions, or Light on the lower ones, but hm this is still "places" which are part of the energetic realm I talked about earlier.

I think that "dimensions" only concerns the energetic realm. There is maybe a Higher energetic dimension with Lightful beings vibrating very high in their Light bodies, and lower energetic dimensions, with bodies even heavier than ours. But this is not the topic guys.

The idea is to determine what the immaterial realm is, if it exists. It's not a dimension. It's a "non-dimension", non-local, non-physical, non-energetic. Full of meaning, of what is called in philosophy "essence". Energy is the substance and immateriality is the essence of "things" (including Beings like Us).

Ok. In my experience thats it. Spirit.
GTG