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Old 20-07-2023, 01:13 PM
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We are in the billions. The land we have available for farming worldwide is pretty small. Wasting the majority of that land for growing crops for (mostly) cows is seriously wasteful. Beef and dairy are some of the worst offenders and biggest environmental culprits.

A world without cows would be a better one.

The need for extra space is a con to suite business-----consider the boar introduced to the forests here, no extra space needed, they manage the scrub to some extent and they fertilize the trees.There are ancient systems that used funnelling methods for wild herds and fish, zero space needed.
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Old 20-07-2023, 01:16 PM
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> A world without cows would be a better one.

Can you imagine a world without Mothers, cows produce many good foodstuffs- and because we cannot farm them correctly you want rid. We rely on them, it's like bees protesting against flowering plants, madness.
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Old 20-07-2023, 01:28 PM
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The need for extra space is a con to suite business-----consider the boar introduced to the forests here, no extra space needed, they manage the scrub to some extent and they fertilize the trees.There are ancient systems that used funnelling methods for wild herds and fish, zero space needed.

Too many boar and it will definitely hurt that ecosystem there.

You don’t wanna acknowledge the impact of cow populations because of your religion.
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> A world without cows would be a better one.

Can you imagine a world without Mothers, cows produce many good foodstuffs- and because we cannot farm them correctly you want rid. We rely on them, it's like bees protesting against flowering plants, madness.

Viewing the cow as YOUR mother is a Hare Krishna belief. It is not my belief.
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Too many boar and it will definitely hurt that ecosystem there.

You don’t wanna acknowledge the impact of cow populations because of your religion.

We don't need loads and loads of boars, like we don't need loads and loads of cars, the idea would be to cut meat consumption and cut car ownership, we need to change not nature.
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Old 20-07-2023, 01:35 PM
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Viewing the cow as YOUR mother is a Hare Krishna belief. It is not my belief.

It's not just an Hare Krsna belief, I am not an Hare Krsna and I understand the masses of stuff the cow has provided us all with over the years and continues to do so, and how we treat it, now you want to get rid of it because we don't know how to interact6 with it, that is madness.
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Old 20-07-2023, 01:36 PM
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We need cows.
Plain and simple.
We cannot possibly milk nuts as a substitute for cows milk.
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Old 20-07-2023, 01:39 PM
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now you want to get rid of it because we don't know how to interact6 with it, that is madness.
I’m saying it’s better without them, considering their numbers and impact. It could still work with very small numbers but that would mean higher prices for dairy (and beef). There are alternatives. Soy for milk/yogurt, chicken/beans for beef. All with less resource demands.
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I’m saying it’s better without them, considering their numbers and impact. It could still work with very small numbers but that would mean higher prices for dairy (and beef). There are alternatives. Soy for milk/yogurt, chicken/beans for beef. All with less resource demands.
They help the environment if farmed properly, like any animal and any proper farmer is part of the environment. The price for the farmer is very poor anyway, cut the profits of the middlemen would be better, and if it comes to it higher prices for stuff should help, should help with bringing vehicle usage under some control too.
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Good information: https://ourworldindata.org/global-land-for-agriculture
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