I don't like spiritual people any more

[Evangeline 77]

Last night after a long time I went to a dance meditation group. Basically free-style dance with some instructions.
I don't know what happened but I felt I needed to laugh at the hypocrisy of these so called spiritual people (not the first time)
The dance meditation, the technique she was "teaching" was simply clubbing without alcohol. Dance and techno tracks played with the faciliator on the "mixer" like a DJ.
I understand the debiliating effects of alcohol what I don't understand that a lot of these people think they are better than others.
An average person who goes to "normal" clubs will get an amplified effect because the music is louder, there are more people around you and you'll get their happy energy too, the music will vibrate through your body. "Normal" people look for the connection and the letting go too they just found a different outlet.
(obviously not talking about the extremes!)

Same thing happens when I tell "spiritual" people that I listen heavy metal. 95 out of 100 will judge me immediately, some tells me I have to stop listening low vibrational music that's why I feel bad!!
It doesn't matter that heavy metal is played by actual musicians who are talented and skilled, the lyrics are normally like poems, yes, some of them are about destruction but that's part of life too. Death is part of life.
Also nobody!! at a metal gig will stay unhappy, people are more inclusive than everywhere else, they are more than happy to talk to you and everyone is smiling because they all accept the other person's quirks.

I used to go to group meditations and retreats but I find it more and more difficult, mainly because majority of the spiritual people are as narrow-minded as everyone else. But the bigger problem is when they think they are superior, "they are on the right path" and you are not.
I got to the point where I think everything you do in your life is good as long as you feel good about, it serves your life purpose and nobody has the right to tell you are doing it wrong. You don't have to do yoga asanas and become a vegan, if you eat meat, you are still a perfect human being. Etc

This is only a rant, everybody is free to think whatever they want, I just had to write about my experience last night because I feel like there is hardly anybody left I could talk too. For average people I am too hippy, for spiritual people I am not well developed yet (You'll get there love-so condescending!)

And the other aspect of my post is I just find it funny how my way of thinking is changing, how I am becoming more Me.

[Native spirit]

You are being very judgemental about everybody around you.these are traits coming from yourself,that you are projecting onto everybody else.
not everyone is the same I listen to varies types of music that doesn't make a difference to how I act to anybody else.
I am a spiritualist I am not false or anything else.i think you need to take a good look at your own opinions of different people.before you make judgement.

Namaste

[inavalan]

Originally Posted by Native spirit

You are being very judgemental about everybody around you.these are traits coming from yourself,that you are projecting onto everybody else.
not everyone is the same I listen to varies types of music that doesn't make a difference to how I act to anybody else.
I am a spiritualist I am not false or anything else.i think you need to take a good look at your own opinions of different people.before you make judgement.

Namaste

You seem quick to jump to judgement too ... Also, too reactive.

Where's your unconditional love?

[running]

Originally Posted by Native spirit

You are being very judgemental about everybody around you.these are traits coming from yourself,that you are projecting onto everybody else.
not everyone is the same I listen to varies types of music that doesn't make a difference to how I act to anybody else.
I am a spiritualist I am not false or anything else.i think you need to take a good look at your own opinions of different people.before you make judgement.

Namaste

she speaks for many. you may be surprised of how it is in some areas. not speaking of you or people you know. but she is speaking for many that run into such things. of all the tbings i been around i never seen anything like what i have seen in spiritual circles. they are like independent religions with ideas that give these people a feeling of superiority. and they express it in ways you dont see in anthing else.

i have moved on from having anything to do with it. my girlfriend on the other hand whom is in all these circles partly because it a part of her life working as a psychic healer in ways lives a double life. not entirely but for example eating vegetarian to fit in around them to not feel like being seen as inferior. i could go on and on. i will just put it like this. my biggest complaint from girlfriends of the past is how i like and get along with everyone. i can among the spiritual groups but even for me its more than i wish to deal with.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Evangeline 77

Last night after a long time I went to a dance meditation group. Basically free-style dance with some instructions.
I don't know what happened but I felt I needed to laugh at the hypocrisy of these so called spiritual people (not the first time)
The dance meditation, the technique she was "teaching" was simply clubbing without alcohol. Dance and techno tracks played with the faciliator on the "mixer" like a DJ.
I understand the debiliating effects of alcohol what I don't understand that a lot of these people think they are better than others.
An average person who goes to "normal" clubs will get an amplified effect because the music is louder, there are more people around you and you'll get their happy energy too, the music will vibrate through your body. "Normal" people look for the connection and the letting go too they just found a different outlet.
(obviously not talking about the extremes!)

Same thing happens when I tell "spiritual" people that I listen heavy metal. 95 out of 100 will judge me immediately, some tells me I have to stop listening low vibrational music that's why I feel bad!!
It doesn't matter that heavy metal is played by actual musicians who are talented and skilled, the lyrics are normally like poems, yes, some of them are about destruction but that's part of life too. Death is part of life.
Also nobody!! at a metal gig will stay unhappy, people are more inclusive than everywhere else, they are more than happy to talk to you and everyone is smiling because they all accept the other person's quirks.

I used to go to group meditations and retreats but I find it more and more difficult, mainly because majority of the spiritual people are as narrow-minded as everyone else. But the bigger problem is when they think they are superior, "they are on the right path" and you are not.
I got to the point where I think everything you do in your life is good as long as you feel good about, it serves your life purpose and nobody has the right to tell you are doing it wrong. You don't have to do yoga asanas and become a vegan, if you eat meat, you are still a perfect human being. Etc

This is only a rant, everybody is free to think whatever they want, I just had to write about my experience last night because I feel like there is hardly anybody left I could talk too. For average people I am too hippy, for spiritual people I am not well developed yet (You'll get there love-so condescending!)

And the other aspect of my post is I just find it funny how my way of thinking is changing, how I am becoming more Me.

" I don't like spiritual people any more "

I,m not so keen on judgemental people either

[inavalan]

Originally Posted by sky123

" I don't like spiritual people any more "

I,m not so keen on judgemental people either

You can have an opinion without being judgmental. And, you should have your own opinion on everything that matters to you!

Each one of us has their own perceptions that contribute to the creation of our individual realities. We can't access the objective reality, if that exists.

Also, people should be allowed to exercise their right to free speech, and even be wrong, without being labeled as judgmental, or being shut up by "spiritual" people.

[Baile]

Originally Posted by inavalan

Also, people should be allowed to exercise their right to free speech, and even be wrong, without being labeled as judgmental, or being shut up by "spiritual" people.

You just critiqued and invalidated two peoples' free speech responses by insinuating or directly labeling them as being judgmental. You also used a shame tactic to shut them up, judging and labeling them as the same sort of arrogant spiritual types the OP was describing. You do see the irony I hope.

[Bornonthecusp]

We all judge, huh? It is a part of the human experience. I do feel that it causes separation most of the time but it can also be a useful tool in developing ourselves and our experiences. We get to know what we like and what we don't through judgement of things. I suppose it's about recognising when it's causing us pain or coming from fear. I am having a tough time with this within myself lately. I hope we can all find a way to overcome this and lead with love

[Opal_Moon]

I've never met an actual spiritual person in 'real life' - this is the best place I've found for like-minded people.
I do find I cant help but judge on the meat eating - but that's because in my opinion, a life shouldn't end just to end up on someone's plate and it's something I feel passionate about. I certainly felt the right decision had been made for MY OWN spirituality when I gave it up & stopped being part of that cruel 'life' cycle.
I also listen to metal and find metallers are some of the nicest, most inclusive people, scene-wise.

I guess my point is, in my experience it's hard to find someone who is just like yourself, out in the real world, & you get to know your real self more because of it. :)

[Blue Tiger]

Originally Posted by Opal_Moon

I've never met an actual spiritual person in 'real life' - this is the best place I've found for like-minded people.
I do find I cant help but judge on the meat eating - but that's because in my opinion, a life shouldn't end just to end up on someone's plate and it's something I feel passionate about. I certainly felt the right decision had been made for MY OWN spirituality when I gave it up & stopped being part of that cruel 'life' cycle.
I also listen to metal and find metallers are some of the nicest, most inclusive people, scene-wise.

I guess my point is, in my experience it's hard to find someone who is just like yourself, out in the real world, & you get to know your real self more because of it. :)

If I were to go out and try to find someone is "just like myself" I'd be sorely disappointed. Such a person doesn't exist. Maybe that is part of your difficulty, too. Expecting someone to be "just like you" is asking a lot, and in a way passing judgment on those who aren't.

I have met some spiritualist people in person. Those I've met are an eclectic group. Some love classical music, others are into current pop/rock. I don't really think preference in music is any indicator of spirituality or lack of same. Most in the group I've met with eat meat and frankly feel that the whole vegan thing is weird. They're in the UK and see it as another strange American fad. They also were a mix of tea drinkers and those who enjoyed a pint or even a good stiff drink.

It sounds like that dance thing you went to simply wasn't appropriate for you... and possibly shouldn't have been labeled as "spiritual" but who am I to judge that?