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Old 18-05-2015, 08:43 PM
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I have heard the same.What is the shushumna is it your chakras??I think my kundalini is awaken but i am not sure maybe its still very gentle or my shushumna is open i dont know but first 2 weeks was tough but now i am over it just the head pressure thats bad but it go's.Hope thats it and i am over the worst but it sounds to good to be true.Dont know what to expect next!!!
I heard some people are sensitive to its energy some are not and don't really feel it so maybe i am not so sensitive maybe just a chakra opened who knows


Here were i live there are no courses in the country and i work so i cant go.

there is a shushumna - the main/center - that goes through all the main chakras from crown to base. you have 7 shushumnas. one for each body layer. :)

for kundalini to be opened safely in reiki tummo, the shushumna is opened first, breaking the main chakra knots along the way. the core is cracked. the second day, the shushumna is widened. more chakra's opened. kundalini cracked open fully and the fire/smoke exiting upwards. can get pretty hot. ;)

i know what i've stumbled upon and this is really good and really fast. super easy and i call it the lazy person's yoga.

more than kundalini, it's really all about not forcing and to stop trying/doing. to allow ourselves to be loved and to let the love do everything for us. for thousands upon thousands of years we used whatever methods that were available to us. things have changed recently that this path is now available to all beings. now is time to just relax and let the Supreme Being do it for us. all we have to do is say 'yes' whole-heartedly. one thing is for sure, you cannot chase yoga, for we will never be able to catch it. you must be relaxed enough, grateful enough, joyful enough and you must choose to allow yourself to be given it. just smile, relax and surrender.
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Old 18-05-2015, 11:55 PM
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Hi tainamom,

Please don't take this wrong but you are playing with fire. I would ask that you stop until you understand what you are really doing.

Does this sound familiar?

Lesson 125 - Q&A – Kundalini heat


Q: I've been studying Kundalini for some time now, and have been feeling a great deal of internal heat due to the Kriyas and meditations. However, recently I read that the part of the head (Shushumna) that was once soft as a child, needs to soften again in order for the heat to be released, otherwise the Kundalini experience can be painful. The way this is supposedly done is through Tummo Reiki? Can you shed any light on this for me? I have curtailed my meditations and my Sadhana for a few days now, which I so did not want to do.
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Old 19-05-2015, 12:45 AM
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Hi tainamom,

Please don't take this wrong but you are playing with fire. I would ask that you stop until you understand what you are really doing.

Does this sound familiar?

Lesson 125 - Q&A – Kundalini heat


Q: I've been studying Kundalini for some time now, and have been feeling a great deal of internal heat due to the Kriyas and meditations. However, recently I read that the part of the head (Shushumna) that was once soft as a child, needs to soften again in order for the heat to be released, otherwise the Kundalini experience can be painful. The way this is supposedly done is through Tummo Reiki? Can you shed any light on this for me? I have curtailed my meditations and my Sadhana for a few days now, which I so did not want to do.

hi jonesboy,

please don't take this wrong, but i have a many years of studying under irman's guidance and i find reiki tummo to be very gentle in my experience. i can't compare to other traditions as i've never studied them and do not plan to do so.

the biggest issue i see in your statement comes from fear and rightly so. kundalini mustn't be played with. Master Irman suffered kundalini syndrome for 7 years and once it cleared, he was taught another method by his non-physical teachers that will make the awakening safer and that was through the heart and relying on Divine Source. that is why everything Master Irman teaches is about the heart and the love, peace, calmness. no need to fear because the love from Divine Source is taking care of everything.
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Old 19-05-2015, 12:57 AM
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The fascination with the mystique of this kind of experience is understandable as the desire for mystical experiences occupy the mind, but this propensity only obscures the nuance of spiritual life.
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Old 19-05-2015, 01:25 AM
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The fascination with the mystique of this kind of experience is understandable as the desire for mystical experiences occupy the mind, but this propensity only obscures the nuance of spiritual life.

An idea of what a spiritual life is of the mind. Ecstasy happens from the heart. These are two entirely different things. Except that when one becomes in the ecstasy and it has become permenant one will be transformed in ways. If for no other reason than always being joyful feeling internally. Through life and its emotions. This is common knowledge to many yogis and masters world wide. Yet its unique in that there are flavors of ecstasy and different interpretations of the experience in ways. But peace and joyful feeling internaly is universal
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An idea of what a spiritual life is of the mind. Ecstasy happens from the heart. These are two entirely different things. Except that when one becomes in the ecstasy and it has become permenant one will be transformed in ways. If for no other reason than always being joyful feeling internally. Through life and its emotions. This is common knowledge to many yogis and masters world wide. Yet its unique in that there are flavors of ecstasy and different interpretations of the experience in ways. But peace and joyful feeling internaly is universal

I'm ok with talk of ecstacy bliss and joy, but that's not the actual lived experience of everyone... and in actual experience, everyone has their ups and downs.
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I'm ok with talk of ecstacy bliss and joy, but that's not the actual lived experience of everyone... and in actual experience, everyone has their ups and downs.

I agree. And in ecstasy is still ups and downs. Or one would have no preferences. Never heard of someone without them
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hi jonesboy,

please don't take this wrong, but i have a many years of studying under irman's guidance and i find reiki tummo to be very gentle in my experience. i can't compare to other traditions as i've never studied them and do not plan to do so.

the biggest issue i see in your statement comes from fear and rightly so. kundalini mustn't be played with. Master Irman suffered kundalini syndrome for 7 years and once it cleared, he was taught another method by his non-physical teachers that will make the awakening safer and that was through the heart and relying on Divine Source. that is why everything Master Irman teaches is about the heart and the love, peace, calmness. no need to fear because the love from Divine Source is taking care of everything.

I don't fear kundalini. To me kundalini is universal consciousness and I do a lot with that :)

What I worry about is you teaching something that you don't understand. Your just waking up kundalini. Moving some prana around. If you go to fast and you haven't cleared out the obstructions, that is where people start to have problems. Here is a forum with hundreds of such complaints from various systems http://www.aypsite.org/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=57

I always find it interesting when people start talking about Divine Sources. If one is truly at the level of talking or being with Divine Beings just there presence alone is enough to help people with kundalini issues. Adding in all this other stuff makes me go hummm.

I would consider Running to be at the master level. In just about any tradition Running is considered very advanced. Just his presence alone can help someone remove obstructions and awaken kundalini in a safe way. I highly doubt you will ever find him giving people techniques to raise kundalini.

I hope things go well for you.

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I don't fear kundalini. To me kundalini is universal consciousness and I do a lot with that :)

What I worry about is you teaching something that you don't understand. Your just waking up kundalini. Moving some prana around. If you go to fast and you haven't cleared out the obstructions, that is where people start to have problems. Here is a forum with hundreds of such complaints from various systems http://www.aypsite.org/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=57

I always find it interesting when people start talking about Divine Sources. If one is truly at the level of talking or being with Divine Beings just there presence alone is enough to help people with kundalini issues. Adding in all this other stuff makes me go hummm.

I would consider Running to be at the master level. In just about any tradition Running is considered very advanced. Just his presence alone can help someone remove obstructions and awaken kundalini in a safe way. I highly doubt you will ever find him giving people techniques to raise kundalini.

I hope things go well for you.

Good luck.

Jonesboy,

I am not a teacher, but I have taken many workshops and the advanced yoga classes with Master Irman. I have found them to be true teachings, the experiences are real and the spiritual growth is beautiful and profound. It gets better and better every time I attend any of the retreats.

I invite anyone who would love to follow his wonderful teachings to do so. Irman really is a great master of the heart and for helping people open their hearts and their inner heart for the real truths so that Source can be our real teacher. (As they say in AYP, the guru is in you.) He has given and taught us opening of the heart and inner heart, safe kundalini awakening, guided us through atman consciousness and will do even more.

Letting Divine Source open our heart is the right direction so that we may all go home -so simple and so easy. Yoga is and will be the final result when we truly trust Source and the heart is and will always be the key to go home. We just needed someone who can unlock it for us.
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