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Old 03-10-2010, 08:05 PM
TzuJanLi
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Greetings..

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In stillness one goes beyond the mind- no thought, just awareness.
What is this 'one' that goes beyond? in stillness you go nowhere, you realize you're always there..
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There is no You in stillness. There is no self in stillness.
I think you'll disagree with that notion someday, at least i hope you will.. it may not seem like it right now, but.. you are setting limitations on yourself..

Be well..
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Old 03-10-2010, 09:45 PM
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Hello,

A thought came to me while going through the posts here.

Freedom, the place of contentment one finds with in. Where there is no judgement, no expectation, no need to impress, just to be and enjoy being alive.

Peace
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Old 04-10-2010, 01:35 PM
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Hello,

A thought came to me while going through the posts here.

Freedom, the place of contentment one finds with in. Where there is no judgement, no expectation, no need to impress, just to be and enjoy being alive.

Peace

Hi Moonglow ... welcome back to the forums ... your words inspire peaceful thoughts
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Old 04-10-2010, 03:22 PM
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You are not the mind.

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Greetings..

Yes we are, and so very much more..

Be well..


If we are the mind, then what is it that we are? What is the mind that we are?

And you say "and so very much more."

What is this very much more? Tell all that we are.
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Old 04-10-2010, 03:34 PM
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TzuJanLi-
What is this 'one' that goes beyond? in stillness you go nowhere, you realize you're always there..

We could use the word, awareness, or consciousness- that which is identified with mind- withdraws its attention from the mind, from thought, and the mind is still.

"Going beyond the mind" is an expression- not of distance but of actuality.

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I think you'll disagree with that notion someday, at least i hope you will.. it may not seem like it right now, but.. you are setting limitations on yourself.

It is not a notion. What you are saying is a notion. An idea. Not Reality.

As to limitations on myself- this is a laughable thought!

Note- I have answered your question, now what about my questions to you?
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Old 04-10-2010, 04:12 PM
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Greetings..

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If we are the mind, then what is it that we are? What is the mind that we are?

And you say "and so very much more."


What is this very much more? Tell all that we are.

We are Consciousness incarnate, physical, tangible, real.. we are 'separate' from the 'Whole' by virtue of this physical state of Energy.. between the tangible physical state, and the intangible spiritual state, Mind is the interface.. 'You', are Consciousness, both individuated and unified, separate and undifferentiated.. and you will not understand this, until you 'do'..

Be well..
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Old 04-10-2010, 04:47 PM
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Greetings..

We are Consciousness incarnate, physical, tangible, real.. we are 'separate' from the 'Whole' by virtue of this physical state of Energy.. between the tangible physical state, and the intangible spiritual state, Mind is the interface.. 'You', are Consciousness, both individuated and unified, separate and undifferentiated.. and you will not understand this, until you 'do'..

Thank you for your answer.

I see truth in it, but it does not go deep enough- it has not gone beyond the mind.

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you will not understand this, until you 'do'..
As you know, two can play at this game.

Question- When you speak of Stillness, what do you mean by it?
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Old 04-10-2010, 04:57 PM
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Greetings..

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I see truth in it, but it does not go deep enough- it has not gone beyond the mind.

No, it hasn't.. it cannot go 'beyond mind'.. until you do.

Be well..
As you know, two can play at this game.

Question- When you speak of Stillness, what do you mean by it?Today 12:12 PM
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Old 04-10-2010, 05:29 PM
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TzuJanLi]Greetings..

No, it hasn't.. it cannot go 'beyond mind'.. until you do.

You- the identified with mind self, the false self, the small self, the personal self- this you- is fiction. This you- IS the mind.

The mind cannot go beyond itself- "you" can't go beyond the mind.
The Consciousness that you really are is what goes beyond the mind. Which means it goes beyond "you"- the mind, the fake little self that we think we are, but we are not.

Consciousness freed of mind identification- becomes conscious of Itself.

that's what it's all about---
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Old 04-10-2010, 06:00 PM
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Greetings..

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that's what it's all about---
Like i said, i wish 'you' well..
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