When Famous people die...

[Lovely]

are they still famous? Is their dying process different than ours.
When they die do they have fans that have passed waiting for
them? I always wondered that. Also do we really care about rather
or not they were famous? If we die and see Elvis or someone do we
care that they were famous on earth or do we just not really care?

If you don't know do you have guesses?

People all die the same way... there are no fans or celebrities in the spirit realms, only loved ones, friends and mentors. What counts is the achievements of the spirit and soul, not the body and mind.

[Tricia]

Originally Posted by Enya

People all die the same way... there are no fans or celebrities in the spirit realms, only loved ones, friends and mentors. What counts is the achievements of the spirit and soul, not the body and mind.

I am agreement with this also... Fame/Wealth/Ego, is for the material world, not for the spirit realms :) This I feel is what many will learn once they pass over.

Originally Posted by Tricia

I am agreement with this also... Fame/Wealth/Ego, is for the material world, not for the spirit realms :) This I feel is what many will learn once they pass over.

Maybe they already knew about it before they came? And perhaps that was why they chose it to be a part of their experiencing/learning here in the physical, the only type of dimension which can afford such experiences...

Ego is also in that same category - we experience it here as part of our many experiences because we won't find it elsewhere 'in spirit'.

I think that when we cross we have ability to understand alot more about the process of living - why we live, what it's all about etc, and through that we will see that we all have different reasons for doing what we did on earth - whether famous or not - and that it all is directed towards a higher goal... what that is I am not quite sure. And that all lives on earth are just as important as each other, but some (the famous ones) have a role of connecting with more people than non-famous ones - of providing a large number of people with a particular message. That's what I think... but here is an excerpt from a book I am reading about this subject...

Book: How to Hear Your Angels (by Doreen Virtue)

Chapter title: Who the Angels are

"Ascended masters : Ascended masters are beings who walked upon the earth as great leaders, teachers and healers, and who continue to help us from their vantage point in the spirit world. They include the famous, such as Jesus, Moses, Buddha, Quan Yin, Mary, Yogananda, and the saints; and the not-so-famous, such as yogis who transcended physical restrictions during their lifetime, pioneering inventors, and unsung heroes. With bigger-then-life love in their hearts and a steadfast devotion to us, they help anyone who calls upon them."

I whole-heartedly believe that musicians such as Michael Jackson (and any other larger than life people) are also in this category.

Interesting topic, I've had this in mind recently as well. Thanks for posting it!!

Spirit superstars? It's certainly a thought. But then, if there are Spirit superstars wouldn't that be judgement? And I would include Ascended Masters in that. Respect can be judgement, because if we respect people we see things in them that we judge to be good. Ascended Masters may be a lot further down their particular Paths than us, but should we revere them because of that?

Look at any talent show. Sometimes the winners aren't the ones with the most talents, they're the ones that the judges think are the most marketable. I don't watch the X-Factor but you can't help seeing it splattered across the papers. Winners are chosen because they have to have their own experiences/lessons of winning - and whatever comes after. Losers for the same reasons. Is it right to make gurus out of people because of their chosen Paths, even though they might have more of what it takes?

Originally Posted by Greenslade

Spirit superstars? It's certainly a thought. But then, if there are Spirit superstars wouldn't that be judgement? And I would include Ascended Masters in that. Respect can be judgement, because if we respect people we see things in them that we judge to be good. Ascended Masters may be a lot further down their particular Paths than us, but should we revere them because of that?

Look at any talent show. Sometimes the winners aren't the ones with the most talents, they're the ones that the judges think are the most marketable. I don't watch the X-Factor but you can't help seeing it splattered across the papers. Winners are chosen because they have to have their own experiences/lessons of winning - and whatever comes after. Losers for the same reasons. Is it right to make gurus out of people because of their chosen Paths, even though they might have more of what it takes?

"Ascended Masters may be a lot further down their particular Paths than us, but should we revere them because of that?" A question which demands a 'No' answer - of course not.

No-one should be revered because they are more spiritually advanced than we. But may we not justifiably respect them when they seek to help others by using their experience. Would we disagree that helping others is the 'right' thing to try to do, however imperfectly we may do it? As Silver Birch said, motive is all important even when we do the 'wrong' thing but for the right reason.

As for gurus, I think that everyone going along any following path deserves to take care that they do not follow the wrong one, the wrong one for them...

Good point Greenslade! I think that how a person views a superstar has got alot to do with it. For instance, one person may look at a superstar as being greater than themselves. Another person may simply see a superstar as being equal, but with a life path of communicating to a large number of people.

How does being famous make you more than a human?

[psychoslice]

Fame is of the ego, can't take that when you go, were all equal in Consciousness, fame is only continued through the ego of others.