The Crucifixion of Christ

[davidmartin]

Another major tenet is the personal relationship with God
This is where I see the 'new age' understandings of Jesus separating beyond the point of compatibility since they usually talk about enlightenment and a transcendent deity that's beyond personal relationship with. They talk about love but then miss the love of the personal relationship

Evangelical Christians understand this and make a big deal of it and they're right too. Other branches also have this as well i merely say the evangelicals emphasise it not that they are right about everything

I think this deserves it's own thread

[Brian100]

Originally Posted by CosmicValet

My point was, if you believed his crucifixion was for you, that it can release you from your pain, suffering and regrets, would your life change from there?

For certain people who liveth and believeth they shall never die.. and that he died in your place is what it means. It means you will never know what dying is like.

2:42 Lazarus scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm7k8k0DsF4&t=318s

Originally Posted by Amilius777

His Crucifixion was mainly for the "salvation of the world"

God was saving the world as a whole. It wasn't about "your personal salvation" which I've always felt sounded very egotistical.

Jesus' suffering on the Cross was for the sake of showing that Love is the most powerful force in the world, and it conquered the illusion of death.

It is from Death that humans begin to fear. And it is from fear we get stuck in ego .

God came in the form of Jesus, his soul came down as a pure entity to take on the violence and evil in the world because the world up to that point was completely thrown out of balance.

Jesus's entire life, teachings, and his sacrifice and resurrection offered a new beginning.

The source of all suffering and evil is the Ego. The ego is not bad in of itself, but when we are stuck in ego consciousness and not coming from our Soul, we create suffering for others and ourselves. Jesus taking on other people's evil, the sins of his people, (their Bad Karma) he was opening a new Door.

in that entire ordeal, he chose Forgiveness and Love. He didn't fall into ego consciousness. At one moment, he fell into despair feeling that the Father, the Cosmic Creator had left him. But this was from the weight of all that physical and emotional suffering. He felt "separated" like we always do as everyday humans. He being God, the Universal Christ in human form, felt at this point what all humans feel at their lowest. And yet he still prevailed handing himself over to God, the Cosmic Father-Mother, letting go.

His resurrection is part of the story. Everyone thinks humankind is just saved by his death and suffering.

No. It is "the life, death, and resurrection". That includes his teachings (following his Example), his life (reminding us being Human is holy and we are all One), his death (Death is not to be feared but to be accepted and let go), and Resurrection (That in the end we are fully restored in the Spirit Realm and we never died and ascend to a higher plane).

But the crucifixion of Christ was mainly an event that was mostly for the People he incarnated to, and a Sacrament for the whole world to look back and remember how The Divine came down and even wrnt to the lowest depths of human separation from God and prevailed. God is truly more with us now that we know a Man who was also Divine went through everything we go through.

Jesus's death and resurrection allowed him to expand his Soul into the boundless infinity of the Universal Christ Consciousness. Now there is a Human Soul part of the Godhead. God and Humans are closer than ever since Jesus' incarnation.

This was a Gift. Embrace it. Accept it. God is not asking for anything else in return except that we love and forgive each other more.

In Jesus, the Universal Christ manifested through Jesus' individual enlightened consciousness, the purity of his heart. After the resurrection, his Soul was able to ascend to such a level that his very unique Soul and the Universal Christ became one and the same. He is the only Human to become part of the Trinity, because he was a Divine Soul descended from on High as an ordinary Man, an Avatar but with such purity of karma that he could also become God. That is why the Catholic Mystics say that in Jesus, God became Man so that Man could become God. That literally means God became Man in Jesus, Jesus became God.

Applauses.

Hey thanks Amilius, beautifully expressed.

[ThatMan]

Originally Posted by Amilius777

His Crucifixion was mainly for the "salvation of the world"

God was saving the world as a whole. It wasn't about "your personal salvation" which I've always felt sounded very egotistical.

Jesus' suffering on the Cross was for the sake of showing that Love is the most powerful force in the world, and it conquered the illusion of death.

It is from Death that humans begin to fear. And it is from fear we get stuck in ego .

God came in the form of Jesus, his soul came down as a pure entity to take on the violence and evil in the world because the world up to that point was completely thrown out of balance.

Jesus's entire life, teachings, and his sacrifice and resurrection offered a new beginning.

The source of all suffering and evil is the Ego. The ego is not bad in of itself, but when we are stuck in ego consciousness and not coming from our Soul, we create suffering for others and ourselves. Jesus taking on other people's evil, the sins of his people, (their Bad Karma) he was opening a new Door.

in that entire ordeal, he chose Forgiveness and Love. He didn't fall into ego consciousness. At one moment, he fell into despair feeling that the Father, the Cosmic Creator had left him. But this was from the weight of all that physical and emotional suffering. He felt "separated" like we always do as everyday humans. He being God, the Universal Christ in human form, felt at this point what all humans feel at their lowest. And yet he still prevailed handing himself over to God, the Cosmic Father-Mother, letting go.

His resurrection is part of the story. Everyone thinks humankind is just saved by his death and suffering.

No. It is "the life, death, and resurrection". That includes his teachings (following his Example), his life (reminding us being Human is holy and we are all One), his death (Death is not to be feared but to be accepted and let go), and Resurrection (That in the end we are fully restored in the Spirit Realm and we never died and ascend to a higher plane).

But the crucifixion of Christ was mainly an event that was mostly for the People he incarnated to, and a Sacrament for the whole world to look back and remember how The Divine came down and even wrnt to the lowest depths of human separation from God and prevailed. God is truly more with us now that we know a Man who was also Divine went through everything we go through.

Jesus's death and resurrection allowed him to expand his Soul into the boundless infinity of the Universal Christ Consciousness. Now there is a Human Soul part of the Godhead. God and Humans are closer than ever since Jesus' incarnation.

This was a Gift. Embrace it. Accept it. God is not asking for anything else in return except that we love and forgive each other more.

In Jesus, the Universal Christ manifested through Jesus' individual enlightened consciousness, the purity of his heart. After the resurrection, his Soul was able to ascend to such a level that his very unique Soul and the Universal Christ became one and the same. He is the only Human to become part of the Trinity, because he was a Divine Soul descended from on High as an ordinary Man, an Avatar but with such purity of karma that he could also become God. That is why the Catholic Mystics say that in Jesus, God became Man so that Man could become God. That literally means God became Man in Jesus, Jesus became God.

Beautiful!

That's how I feel whenever I read his posts, ThatMan

Originally Posted by BigJohn

FallingLeaves,

if 'christ was' not 'promoting what he did as a way to make people happy....'

......... then what was he promoting?

He was promoting Gods kingdom coming to take control. Its good news for those who listen to Jesus, not good news for the wicked( in Gods view)--Jesus compared these last days to Noahs day( 99% minimum mislead.)-- No wonder Jesus teaches that FEW will find the road. Its a sad reality, but satan and his teachers have transformed into angels of light( 2Cor 11:12-15)

[ThatMan]

Originally Posted by janielee

That's how I feel whenever I read his posts, ThatMan

Some people are very wise!

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by kjw47

He was promoting Gods kingdom coming to take control. Its good news for those who listen to Jesus, not good news for the wicked( in Gods view)--Jesus compared these last days to Noahs day( 99% minimum mislead.)-- No wonder Jesus teaches that FEW will find the road. Its a sad reality, but satan and his teachers have transformed into angels of light( 2Cor 11:12-15)

Excellent points.

Why Jesus had to die on the day he died is a point most people never noticed let alone understand.
Also, the scriptures Jesus fulfilled at his death is considerable.

As for the god of this World; you made a good point of him being able to transform into an Angel of light.

Originally Posted by ThatMan

Some people are very wise!

Yes, luckily for us, there's a few on this forum although so many have already left. Anyway, a gem is a gem is a gem.

As you shine too, ThatMan

JL

[FallingLeaves]

Originally Posted by BigJohn

FallingLeaves,

if 'christ was' not 'promoting what he did as a way to make people happy....'

......... then what was he promoting?

that we should have life, and have it more abundantly? I think that is what he claimed as his reason for coming here...