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13-08-2018, 06:30 PM
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Christ did NOT go around teaching everyone self love.
Christ's teachings go beyond self love, as does that of the Old Testament. The complete Bible does not teach that self love is the answer; which is what the Hindus and New Age would have us believe.
Self love really is the dark side of love. It is love but it is very self absorbed and not necessarily virtuous or ethical. The Bible is mainly about whole love which Christ summed up as love of self, others and God. NOT just the flaming self.
Get over yourselves! So what you are God, but are not we all. God is God too.
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13-08-2018, 10:41 PM
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Self love manifests as forgiveness...cuz we beat ourselves up so much...
as we inwardly forgive
ourselves for our many blunders...we are to forgive our neighbor for the same blunders...
that come from childhood trauma unhealed and still pushed down...usually...
then projected out onto others as a way to release pain and guilt and shame that is unconscious!
Until we love ourselves ...accepting ourselves and being gentle with ourselves ...we can never love God fully.
Maybe another angle to see this in? 
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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21-08-2018, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
Self love manifests as forgiveness...cuz we beat ourselves up so much...
as we inwardly forgive
ourselves for our many blunders...we are to forgive our neighbor for the same blunders...
that come from childhood trauma unhealed and still pushed down...usually...
then projected out onto others as a way to release pain and guilt and shame that is unconscious!
Until we love ourselves ...accepting ourselves and being gentle with ourselves ...we can never love God fully.
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I must agree and if "Do unto others as you would have done unto your self/Soul" is anything to be understood who can disagree? Nice angle in deed. |
13-08-2018, 10:58 PM
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How can you love others if you are no capable to love yourself?
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14-08-2018, 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Rah nam
How can you love others if you are no capable to love yourself?
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It's possible, I don't know why people say this so often. No offence to anyone. It's just that I think people can love others without loving themselves, it's probably better for two people who love themselves to be together, more ideal and harmonious perhaps. But if someone doesn't love themselves it's not like they are incapable of loving another, these can be very self sacrificing people, because they may not care about themselves too much or maybe also kinda secretly want to die. |
14-08-2018, 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Nature Grows
It's possible, I don't know why people say this so often. No offence to anyone. It's just that I think people can love others without loving themselves, it's probably better for two people who love themselves to be together, more ideal and harmonious perhaps. But if someone doesn't love themselves it's not like they are incapable of loving another, these can be very self sacrificing people, because they may not care about themselves too much or maybe also kinda secretly want to die.
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Then we perhaps need to clarify what love is.
Creating attachments or seeking gratification for some reason would not constitute as love in my view. |
14-08-2018, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Rah nam
Then we perhaps need to clarify what love is.
Creating attachments or seeking gratification for some reason would not constitute as love in my view.
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Some spirit once asked me "what is love?". I considered it a moment, and finally the only thing I could get in my mind was the word "Mother". |
14-08-2018, 04:55 AM
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How can you give away what you don't have yourself ?
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14-08-2018, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Rah nam
Then we perhaps need to clarify what love is.
Creating attachments or seeking gratification for some reason would not constitute as love in my view.
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mmm.. some spiritual people want to detach an go beyond others are more intimate with life, fully involved, there is a way to have both it is like being completely intimate with all of life an creation yet absolutely free from it at the same time, its a more balanced and integrated approach, both in one, mind and heart.
ps: by the way Rah nam I see you are located in the same city as me lol.. I was in williams town all day today, not sure if you know where that is.. its a nice area, nice beach an houses.
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How can you give away what you don't have yourself ?
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They have it but choose not to direct it to themselves, instead give it away, there are people who are sad or depressed but will still treat others very well and kind. |
15-08-2018, 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by sky123
How can you give away what you don't have yourself ?
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it's easy, love is an emotion, it's not physical. I feel very little love for myself, but I feel love for everyone close to me. There more important than I am. What I do for them isn't because I love myself, it's because I love them. If you don't have love in your heart you probably couldn't love others. But the love in my heart isn't for me.
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