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26-07-2018, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by white pegasus
sky-I have had an open mind when it comes to studying the Bible-I believe that the events that took place(the ones you cited in your response)-Adam and Eve, the flood,etc ared not myths-they are actual events that took place-
Honestly, I have attended a non denominational bible study-it is affiliated with no religion.
As good as the articles that Davidsun suggested-I am not interested in them not because I am fearful of stepping outside the religious box-try not to make assumptions about why people chose not to read articles that support reincarnation-you simply do not know my reasons and why would you-I have not explained them to you.
We don't find God sky-it is God who finds us-
For clarity sake..........Christian atheist? an atheist believes that the proof that God does not exists can be proven-please clarify
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' Honestly, I have attended a non denominational bible study-it is affiliated with no religion. '
Which ' Non Religion ' studies the bilble WP?
You can find info: on Christian Atheist everywhere.
' We don't find God sky-it is God who finds us- '
That's something I have heard very little about. How does he do that?
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26-07-2018, 06:27 AM
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davidsun-i have no interest in reading the articles you suggested-but thank you anyway
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What I posted was for forum members (who are also by definition 'members' of 'the Body of Christ') who are interested in considering the facts presented in said articles and their implications. I accept your 'thanks' as an expression of appreciation of said intention of mine.
I recognize you are being a 'member' of 'the Body of Christ' as well. And I appreciate the fact of your non-interest what I shared as well as your reasoning relating (or rather non-relating) thereto. |
26-07-2018, 02:05 PM
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Were they based on myths or were the myths you speak of based on them? The truths revealed in the Bible were known before the Bible was written. That is why we sometimes find Biblical truth in other religions. When people departed from the truth they sometimes retained parts of the truth.
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26-07-2018, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by theophilus
Were they based on myths or were the myths you speak of based on them? The truths revealed in the Bible were known before the Bible was written. That is why we sometimes find Biblical truth in other religions. When people departed from the truth they sometimes retained parts of the truth.
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All myths Theo just passed from one Ancient Civilization to another. They didn't have Scientific Research or Archeology like we have now so they found ways according to their mentality to explain the wonders of the universe.
We now have evidence in the form of fossils to explain the beginning of human life on earth, we know how humans evolved, we understand the essence of humanity and it definitely didn't start with Adam and Eve that's certain. |
26-07-2018, 02:49 PM
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sky-if you have attended a non-denominational bible study, then you know the study is based upon the bible itself?
God draws us to Him-in your own case=you have a strong interest in spirituality/Christian-it is God that placed that interest within you-when I first began my journey to faith I thought it was me pursuing God-however, I realized it was God pursuing me.
The reason I inquire about Christian atheist......consider the 2 words separately.......Christian atheist. a Christian who is one that believes in God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit. an atheist believes that the proof that God does not exist can be proven, If you put the 2 words together it doesn't make sense-almost like a swirling of the truth and a lie.
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26-07-2018, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by white pegasus
sky-if you have attended a non-denominational bible study, then you know the study is based upon the bible itself?
God draws us to Him-in your own case=you have a strong interest in spirituality/Christian-it is God that placed that interest within you-when I first began my journey to faith I thought it was me pursuing God-however, I realized it was God pursuing me.
The reason I inquire about Christian atheist......consider the 2 words separately.......Christian atheist. a Christian who is one that believes in God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit. an atheist believes that the proof that God does not exist can be proven, If you put the 2 words together it doesn't make sense-almost like a swirling of the truth and a lie.
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A Christian Atheist is one who believes in the teachings of Jesus Christ minus a God.
Regarding a God who comes looking for me/you/us, this is something I do not believe, I know a lot of spiritual people who find their way without a God. I know Atheist who's lifestyle would put some Christians to shame.
I personally don't care what people believe, but I do find the beliefs of others interesting. So much diversity from years ago when most people where afraid to question organised religions, I love the open-minded conversations, it's fun...
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26-07-2018, 06:00 PM
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I'm saying that the evolution/ creation debate is a non issue. Both for the reasons you cite above, and, because of what science has been telling us since Einstein.
All involving "Time".
Time... Is the essential substruct of the matrrial world, as we percieve it.
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27-07-2018, 05:08 AM
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sky-an atheist believes that proof exists to prove there is o God-but tey believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ-interesting concept I guess
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27-07-2018, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by sky123
A Christian Atheist is one who believes in the teachings of Jesus Christ minus a God.
Regarding a God who comes looking for me/you/us, this is something I do not believe, I know a lot of spiritual people who find their way without a God. I know Atheist who's lifestyle would put some Christians to shame.
I personally don't care what people believe, but I do find the beliefs of others interesting. So much diversity from years ago when most people where afraid to question organised religions, I love the open-minded conversations, it's fun...
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"Christian Atheist", is contrary, and a ridiculous premise.
As I said, people can call themselves anything they choose.
Creation is equated with a Creator, just as a program is equated with a Programmer.
Since my youth sky, I've been reading about obe's and nde's.
davidson here had quoted St. Paul regarding the spiritual body in contrast to the physical body.
This too involves the issue of time.
Life and consciousness surpasses the mere physical.
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"I believe there are two sides to the phenomena known as death. This side where we live, and the other side, where we shall continue to live.
Eternity does not start with death.
We are in eternity now." - Norman Vincent Peale
"There is no place in this new kind of physics for both the field and matter, for the field is the only reality." - A. Einstein
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27-07-2018, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Morpheus
"Christian Atheist", is contrary, and a ridiculous premise.
Creation is equated with a Creator, just as a program is equated with a Programmer.
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Christian Atheists might think that your beliefs are ridiculous 
Each to their own.... |
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