Reverse AP?

I think, in this instance, people might need to look at my signature.

Has anyone else noticed that often fiction is based on some form of truth?

This sneaky body hijacking has never happened to me personally, but I know enough to understand that it is possible, if not extremely rare.

Someone has to be either really desperate, really vengeful or really stupid to use your body when your unaware.

If your mind or attention is elsewhere, apart from your physical body, then it would be easier for a spirit (or someone OBEing) to get into your body and mind, but much much harder to make the body move or do anything because the consciousness just isn't there to be used, its elsewhere.

No consciousness = no tools to use, but no defense's against intrusion either.

I would assume that in order to do it you'd have to jump in while, or wait until they are in the final stages of sleep, but their mind/consciousness is not quite back yet, but almost there.

*Note to self - try hijacking someone elses body while they are APing. Personal experience is everything.

You can all say what you like, bicker that it's false or true...etc

It would be nice if no ones head is/was/or will be getting bitten off for voicing their opinions, sharing experiences and asking questions. (That's aimed at everyone in general. No one in particular.)

Reverse Ap does soudn really interesting. I'd never heard of it before but i think its something i will look into :)

Im only really just starting to learn about AP and didnt know anything like this was possible,. but a couple of people have heard about it, so i think its something to be aware of maybe.

And on that note (well said Sangress and I apologise)......

How would reverse AP work?! And why would a spirit or entity want to do it?!

Im not hot on this topic, AP isnt my strong point. It was only after reading a couple of other posts i realised it had happened to me.....if thats possible.

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Hmm. Reasons and Motives for Reverse AP.....

I'll set aside the notion of people in bodies OBEing performing Reverse AP, because this will become waay too complicated otherwise.

Think of why you would wan't to, or why you do astral project, then switch it to a spirits point of view.

Some spirits have yet to experience what its like to have their own body, while others expect to never take a body for various reasons.

Would it be illogical to consider whether both of those "kinds" of spirits would want to know what it's like to be in a body? Maybe yearn for it?

Then there could be others who see a chance to have some fun, or finish a job they had overlooked the last time they were in a body.

I don't think anyone should overlook the potential for everyone to be harmfull, spirit or not.

The posibility of a spirit going for vengance of someone who will loose their body regardless (from old age I would hope) seems completely illogical, but hey, no one thinks clearly when they are angry, so it's worth mentioning.

There could be countless reasons because, as with every action, there is a motive that is specific to the individual performing that action.

Hope that gives you a bit of a clearer idea.

[Kaere]

This topic has reopened for polite discussion.

Let's think about it. Every night when we go to sleep, we astral project. Our dreams are astral projections, and most of the time we experience them unconsciously.

Let's just say I'm 21 years old, and I found out about astral projection last year. That means I have been projecting astrally unconsciously for 20 years. Twenty years without being possesed. Twenty years without "reverse AP".

Shouldn't that ease your mind enough?

Let's think about it. Every night when we go to sleep, we astral project. Our dreams are astral projections, and most of the time we experience them unconsciously.

Let's just say I'm 21 years old, and I found out about astral projection last year. That means I have been projecting astrally unconsciously for 20 years. Twenty years without being possesed. Twenty years without "reverse AP".

Shouldn't that ease your mind enough?

I see differences between dreams and AP, as well as differences between unconscious and conscious AP and I believe that such factors could alter the possibility of Reverse AP occurring.

On a side note, I've learned that age and time is irrelevant where spirits are concerned.

So, I'm not one to comment on that due to differing experiences.

I'm interested in other peoples replies to your comment though.

Originally Posted by Felynx

Im guessing most people know that when you AP you leave your body open to other entities if you dont protect it properly (and sometimes even if you do), so Im asking anyone if theyve had any strange experiences with "reverse AP" as Id like to call it, as much as they can understand and remember anyways.

Felynx, After being involved in and experiencing AP for over half a century I do not think another spirit can take over one's body. I believe you have an automatic response that pulls you back if your body is threatened.
A couple of times I found my spirit snapped rapidly back into my body and glimpsed 'something' near. It could have been merely another curious spirit.
I personally have never used methods for protection of my body.

What another person does for their own comfort is, to me, strictly their business. If some sort of protection ritual or object makes you feel free to enjoy the experience, by all means use it. It is a personal choice.

Again, these are my personal experiences and would never falsely tell you that I know everything, nor try to speak of absolutes. This would immediately disqualify me as a reliable source of information.
Just enjoy the wonders and possibilities.

It is good that you have so much information available to you and that there are so many good people here willing to help answer your questions. When I started, so many years ago, I had few references and practically no one spoke of such things. This forum is a gift to be appreciated along with the majority of the folks here. Thanks to all.

Originally Posted by Sangress

I see differences between dreams and AP, as well as differences between unconscious and conscious AP and I believe that such factors could alter the possibility of Reverse AP occurring.

Why? What are the differences and why would they alter the probabilities at all?

When you project you dont leave your body. As the the label says...it is a projection of energy. People perhaps try to view it in terms of the physical experience they know...ie that you need to leave the house to get somewhere else.

There are those who would manipulate energy, and by doing so they are able to manipulate the minds perception.

And this is why perhaps spiritual work is not about attaining some ability or sightedness...but is everything to do with searching within yourself to understand where your motivation comes from....and eventually to break down the unconcious threads of the ego and regain control of yourself.