Being enlightened and not even knowing it

[shivatar]

It's easy to be in denial of our problems, especially any mental defiencies we may have acquired during our life. Many people have mental dis-eases and don't even know they are living in a state of heightened fear and anxiety.

Similarly it's also easy to be in denial of our true oringins in enlightenment and divinity. Being afraid of the worst we are is in the same league as being afraid of the best we are. Many are enlightened and they don't even know it. The strength of the experience is enough to cause fear, even though it's a euphoric/positive type experience.

Being the worst comes with no responsibility and zero accountability which leads to a hallow identity.

Being the best of our self comes with massive responsibility and massive accountability which can lead to a burdening identity and doubt, guilt, shame, if certain aspects of our divine ego come into conflict with our shadow ego. Causing us to near immediately drop out of such a state of heightened realization.

It's easier for many to trod the middle path which is one of comfort but lacking depth of experience and fullness of life, the essential vitality that makes us want to wake up everyday.

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It's not easy to accept all of what we are because our soul is so vast it includes all experiences and their polarities, it even includes all of time.

Wishing you all strength on the journey of acceptance and realization.

namaste

[shiningstars]

Namaste, shivatar.

[Dan_SF]

We are pure light, literally. Our true selves cannot be seen. everything else comes from the denial of this.

What body does cannot be called spiritual or spirituality, move off it.

[shivatar]

Originally Posted by Dan_SF

We are pure light, literally. Our true selves cannot be seen. everything else comes from the denial of this.

What body does cannot be called spiritual or spirituality, move off it.

move off it?

[Joyce]

Originally Posted by Dan_SF

We are pure light, literally. Our true selves cannot be seen. everything else comes from the denial of this.

What body does cannot be called spiritual or spirituality, move off it.

This is an excellent video posted somewhere today on SF. Here it is if you haven't seen it already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3aHRLZ4ud0

[Baile]

Originally Posted by shivatar

Being the best of our self comes with massive responsibility and massive accountability which can lead to a burdening identity and doubt, guilt, shame....

It's easier for many to trod the middle path which is one of comfort but lacking depth of experience and fullness of life...

I like your thesis, some great points. These two points though miss the mark. Read Buddhist Middle Path for an understanding of what the middle path entails. Its purpose is the exact opposite of that which you described. There's also a lot of esoteric material on it.

As for the first statement, if an individual is being the best of self, it is functioning out of a higher self place of awareness. Higher self awareness in fact transforms and heals lower self activity such as guilt and shame. And if the individual is feeling "massive responsibility and massive accountability," it's a signal the self is not working from that higher self place. The more attuned to higher self, the less-stressful life becomes as one's lower self beliefs and judgments all fall away. "Massive accountability" is a lower self concept. It's a value judgement that the higher self simply doesn't recognize or give power to.

[shivatar]

Originally Posted by Baile

I like your thesis, some great points. These two points though miss the mark. Read Buddhist Middle Path for an understanding of what the middle path entails. Its purpose is the exact opposite of that which you described. There's also a lot of esoteric material on it.

As for the first statement, if an individual is being the best of self, it is functioning out of a higher self place of awareness. Higher self awareness in fact transforms and heals lower self activity such as guilt and shame. And if the individual is feeling "massive responsibility and massive accountability," it's a signal the self is not working from that higher self place. The more attuned to higher self, the less-stressful life becomes as one's lower self beliefs and judgments all fall away. "Massive accountability" is a lower self concept. It's a value judgement that the higher self simply doesn't recognize or give power to.

I wasn't talking about the Buddhist middle path. The funny thing is when i wrote this I was like "wait i should use a different term so people dont get confused" lol.


Also i've found that working from a place of higher self does not alleviate such things. The more I work from my higher self the greater my challenges become, leading me to battle lower vibrations I thought I'd never see again.

Also I've found that working from a place of the higher self doesn't mean the lower self is gone or covered up. Since I want to work and be around "regular" people for my entire life I will always run into "lower vibration energies" simply because I choose to let those affect me. I could walk around in a high and mighty state of mind where nothing affects me, but who would want to be around a person like that? very few is the answer.

[Baile]

Originally Posted by shivatar

Also I've found that working from a place of the higher self doesn't mean the lower self is gone or covered up.

Of course. I'm lucky if I can get my higher self operating at 10%. Most times it's lower-self showers all day with a chance of higher-self sunshine in the afternoon and evening. I mean c'mon... if we were spiritual masters, would we be wasting time on the internet?

[shivatar]

Originally Posted by Baile

Of course. I'm lucky if I can get my higher self operating at 10%. Most times it's lower-self showers all day with a chance of higher-self sunshine in the afternoon and evening. I mean c'mon... if we were spiritual masters, would we be wasting time on the internet?

Considering that I am a spiritual master and I enjoy inter-webs communicating. Yes? lol.


I feel like modern masters totally enjoy the internet. Especially those in the West.

I mean the entire point of life is to enjoy it right. Why rob ones-self of a modern pleasure as great as the inter web?

[shiningstars]

Originally Posted by shivatar

Considering that I am a spiritual master

How so?

shiningstars