Higher Authority for Stay/Passage

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Hi Everyone,

I've seen that some of you have some knowledge of Angels. Do you know who the "boss" is Up There when it comes to the decision when exactly someone is called back from the Earth plane from a particular life? Who is in charge?

(I know we are allowed "into" a life with obligations and plans and we've planned also certain potential exit dates when they Above can call us back if we go astray too much or maybe we can decide to leave. But who is the authority who decides whether we can/must actually stay or leave?)

I did research it on the Internet without success.

Thank you in advance

[Rah nam]

There is no boss per say, there are elders in the angelic realm, and if you come before one you know.
The angelic do not control your entry or exit points. However the angelic assist you on you journey from source and back.
It is the HS that determines the exit point if for some reason it needs some determining.

[7luminaries]

Agree with Rah Nam.

For many, they have left too soon in other lives and/or are for whatever reason, accustomed to a shorter time.
For those persons, they may have many NDEs, many near-fatal or should have been fatal accidents or mishaps in the current lifetime -- or perhaps are challenged with depression or anxiety, etc, or other challenges.

In all of these instances, these are both tests of endurance and many may also be opportunities for return if mettle or fortitude for this longer version of the journey is lacking.

The real test in many cases is STAYING and enduring...and then ALSO choosely wisely whilst we're here. Staying...and particularly choosing to stay...and choosing repeatedly in a single lifetime...may all be very trying. That's the test, or the mission, if you will. That, and then making something meaningful of this longer lifetime...something truly meaningful at the soul level. So it's a two-part challenge.

Peace & blessings
7L

[Elysium]

Originally Posted by 7luminaries

Agree with Rah Nam.

For many, they have left too soon in other lives and/or are for whatever reason, accustomed to a shorter time.
For those persons, they may have many NDEs, many near-fatal or should have been fatal accidents or mishaps in the current lifetime -- or perhaps are challenged with depression or anxiety, etc, or other challenges.

In all of these instances, these are both tests of endurance and many may also be opportunities for return if mettle or fortitude for this longer version of the journey is lacking.

The real test in many cases is STAYING and enduring...and then ALSO choosely wisely whilst we're here. Staying...and particularly choosing to stay...and choosing repeatedly in a single lifetime...may all be very trying. That's the test, or the mission, if you will. That, and then making something meaningful of this longer lifetime...something truly meaningful at the soul level. So it's a two-part challenge.

Peace & blessings
7L

Thanks for this, it reminded me. In my recent past lives, a lot, I haven't lived past 23 years old. I'm 28 now in this life. IT's hard to say the least. Trying to find the inner comfort in a world filled with cruelness all around. When I was around 25 I really had to console myself and it took all of my strength to stay alive. I've had many accidents in cars that should have killed me, going 70 mph hitting cars at that speed, coming out with only a hurt ankle and knee. I prayed in that instant to God to keep me alive, right before hitting. Anyway I've been in 6 accidents, 5 of them serious, one was a fender bender. I've had OBEs. I've had life reviews. It just gets to be too much sometimes.

Sorry to hijack thread.

[linen53]

Originally Posted by 7luminaries

The real test in many cases is STAYING and enduring...and then ALSO choosely wisely whilst we're here. Staying...and particularly choosing to stay...and choosing repeatedly in a single lifetime...may all be very trying. That's the test, or the mission, if you will. That, and then making something meaningful of this longer lifetime...something truly meaningful at the soul level. So it's a two-part challenge.

Peace & blessings
7L

This really jumped out at me 7luminaries. So very true. There have been multiple times I could have or wanted to exit but I'm still here and very proud of myself, thank you very much.

[CrystalSong]

From all I can tell from experiences across the Veil and conversations with Higher Self, it is the Higher Self who makes this determination Pre-Life with the support and consultation of soul family, Guides and Angels.
There are several different potential exit points along the way that can be taken, otherwise one is in for the full ride one planned when connected with the fullness of oneself.

As to who is the 'Boss of Angels' - we don't know. We don't even know what Angels are. A decent guess is they are 5th and 6th dimensional beings.
That being said, there's a huge amount of races of sentient life living at the 5th and 6th dimension as well. So which ones are what humans call Angels? Do we consider most any Benevolent Being of higher Dimension an Angel?

Once when following my Grandmother O.B.E after she passed over the veil I followed her a good 20 dimensions before loosing her trail in pure light. So it's fair to say there's a lot of dimensions.

In other words an ant can't adequately describe the Empire State building and it's function in a larger society to another ant on the ground. We just don't have enough perspective to understand much outside our limited scope of perception.

[Rah nam]

Originally Posted by CrystalSong

As to who is the 'Boss of Angels' - we don't know. We don't even know what Angels are. A decent guess is they are 5th and 6th dimensional beings.
That being said, there's a huge amount of races of sentient life living at the 5th and 6th dimension as well. So which ones are what humans call Angels? Do we consider most any Benevolent Being of higher Dimension an Angel?

Without going in to much detail, I like to consider, the angelic have a specific role within creation. The angelic realm penetrates all densities, or dimensions as some prefer to call it. From this we could conclude the angelic exist in all densities. Who would assist lost entities in the non physical realms of the third and second density if it wasn't for the angelic?
second and third density angelic, not quite entities yet. One could call them developing entities.

Who controls the gateways or portals from third to fourth density? Who are the timekeepers? This is the work of fourth density angelic entities.
There are no timekeepers in the fifth or sixth density.

[CrystalSong]

Originally Posted by Rah nam

Without going in to much detail, I like to consider, the angelic have a specific role within creation. The angelic realm penetrates all densities, or dimensions as some prefer to call it. From this we could conclude the angelic exist in all densities. Who would assist lost entities in the non physical realms of the third and second density if it wasn't for the angelic?
second and third density angelic, not quite entities yet. One could call them developing entities.

Who controls the gateways or portals from third to fourth density? Who are the timekeepers? This is the work of fourth density angelic entities.
There are no timekeepers in the fifth or sixth density.

I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just being realistic. Very few of us have actual first hand knowledge of anything outside the 3rd dimension and what we have seen, experienced and worked with we can't say with absolute certainty is what we BELIEVE it to be.
What we have is mental constructs mostly based on religious teaching or certain practices which describe these things, so when we elevate of consciousness enough or have an intervention by a Higher Dimensional Being we assume they are "Angels".

I work with a lot of non Physical Beings, I call them my Angels and Guides - they agree they are. When I ask what they actually are I get dead air back like it's beyond the scope of current human understanding. In other words I don't ACTUALLY know what they are. They will say whatever makes us feel comfortable, what matches our mental construct and cultural definitions as it's 'close enough'.

As to Who would assist lost entities in the non physical realms of the third and second density if it wasn't for the angelic?
apparently that's not going so well and humans out of body (spirits) who get stuck in the earth realm and can't transition further often congregate around those who can help them transition out of the earth planes. Myself included. So if Angels were assigned to help people Passover they must be backed up or something cause there's lots of old ghost running around trying to get some attention to continue their onward Journey!

[Rah nam]

Originally Posted by CrystalSong

I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just being realistic. Very few of us have actual first hand knowledge of anything outside the 3rd dimension and what we have seen, experienced and worked with we can't say with absolute certainty is what we BELIEVE it to be.
What we have is mental constructs mostly based on religious teaching or certain practices which describe these things, so when we elevate of consciousness enough or have an intervention by a Higher Dimensional Being we assume they are "Angels".

I work with a lot of non Physical Beings, I call them my Angels and Guides - they agree they are. When I ask what they actually are I get dead air back like it's beyond the scope of current human understanding. In other words I don't ACTUALLY know what they are. They will say whatever makes us feel comfortable, what matches our mental construct and cultural definitions as it's 'close enough'.

As to Who would assist lost entities in the non physical realms of the third and second density if it wasn't for the angelic?
apparently that's not going so well and humans out of body (spirits) who get stuck in the earth realm and can't transition further often congregate around those who can help them transition out of the earth planes. Myself included. So if Angels were assigned to help people Passover they must be backed up or something cause there's lots of old ghost running around trying to get some attention to continue their onward Journey!

I don't talk very often about my self, who, and what I am.
It really doesn't matter if anyone knows or believes what I say. But we are very close and I have not much time left in this reality.
I am Rah nam, my origins are in the angelic realm and my role in creation is mainly assisting in changing the framework of ascending planets and it's populations. Changing the reality they live and exist in.
The angelic are one of three lines of service within creation. The other two are the Fae, who keep balance in all that is physical and what I call the "master builders" or sometimes known as the Elohim. Master builders, since they build all that is physical. ( and they create the framework for different realities, and within this realities entities can create and develop)

You made a good point, regarding the non physical earth realm. Yet you need to understand, since entities have not fully crossed over, free will still applies. And unless someone asks for help, it can not be given. Non interference. So an entity has to be aware and want to complete their crossing over. Only when the entity crosses over into the astral realm, which in not on this planet, will all data from the last incarnation be downloaded and the entity is free. In some cases the HS can call for assistance, which it seldom does. Whether an entity spends one or one hundred years in the non physical earth realm, is of very little importance.

[Elysium]

Originally Posted by :)14:)

Hi Everyone,

I've seen that some of you have some knowledge of Angels. Do you know who the "boss" is Up There when it comes to the decision when exactly someone is called back from the Earth plane from a particular life? Who is in charge?

(I know we are allowed "into" a life with obligations and plans and we've planned also certain potential exit dates when they Above can call us back if we go astray too much or maybe we can decide to leave. But who is the authority who decides whether we can/must actually stay or leave?)

I did research it on the Internet without success.

Thank you in advance

I believe it's spirit guides and yourself cocreating. If you somehow die, or nearly die, and you don't want to, your spirit guides can help to keep you here.

Also, death is never witnessed. It's impossible.