Bodhisattvas and others?

[RyanWind]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Bong

Hahahaha, what are you writing? I don't understand.

Bodhisattva --- Buddha-like or kind hearted person.

You can look up the definitions of things on the internet if you don't understand.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...a%20definition

Takes literally like 2 seconds.

[Jeremy Bong]

Originally Posted by RyanWind

You can look up the definitions of things on the internet if you don't understand.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...a%20definition

Takes literally like 2 seconds.

This is the basic teaching of Buddha whoever explain it differently/hardly means he doesn't understand Buddhism.


Quote:RyanWind:
[What an "enlightened" person has done, is learn to be in the moment without identifying with all of this conditioning. So if you walked up to Buddha and said what do you believe about this or that, what is your favorite color etc, he would probably say what he usually did, which was, I am awake. His consciousness or self, was not identified with the self created by the conditioning, habitual reactionary thought, conceptual memory etc. ][quote]

Is the above called "enlightened "? I doubt about it.

From dictionary :"enlightened" means (approving) having or showing an understanding of people's need, a situation, etc. that is not based on old-fashioned attitudes and PREJUDICE. 开明的/有见识的/摆脱偏见的。

"Enlightenment": knowledge about and understanding of something; the process of understanding something or making somebody understand it. 启迪;开明;启发....

[Gem]

Originally Posted by Tirisilex

In Buddhism there is no self.

Extracted from a well written article

According to Buddhism mind is nothing but a complex compound of fleeting mental states. One unit of consciousness consists of three phases -- arising or genesis (uppada) static or development (thiti), and cessation or dissolution (bhanga). Immediately after the cessation stage of a thought moment there occurs the genesis stage of the subsequent thought-moment. Each momentary consciousness of this ever-changing life-process, on passing away, transmits its whole energy, all the indelibly recorded impressions to its successor. Every fresh consciousness consists of the potentialities of its predecessors together with something more. There is therefore, a continuous flow of consciousness like a stream without any interruption. The subsequent thought moment is neither absolutely the same as its predecessor -- since that which goes to make it up is not identical -- nor entirely another -- being the same continuity of kamma energy. Here there is no identical being but there is an identity in process.

Every moment there is birth, every moment there is death. The arising of one thought-moment means the passing away of another thought-moment and vice versa. In the course of one life-time there is momentary rebirth...

It is worth a read : http://www.buddhanet.net/nutshell09.htm

[RyanWind]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Bong

Bodhisattva --- Buddha-like or kind hearted person.
Bodhi---- state of enlightenment attained by a Buddhist who has achieved salvation. So how far is someone or you away or near to be---- a Bodhisattva.

It's actually this:

bo·dhi·satt·va
ˌbōdiˈsätvə,-ˈsət-/Submit
noun
(in Mahayana Buddhism) a person who is able to reach nirvana but delays doing so out of compassion in order to save suffering beings.

[RyanWind]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Bong

"Enlightenment": knowledge about and understanding of something;

Yup exactly.

[Jeremy Bong]

"Nirvana"( Buddhism) the state of peace and happiness that a person achieves after giving up all personal desire 涅槃(超脱—切烦恼的境界).

Bodhisattva :with the heart of a Buddha or kindhearted.

I think your understanding of Buddhism is v. Very different. Or the translator is not understanding much of Buddhism.

Bodhisattva of compassion Avalokitesvara.
大慈大悲观音菩萨。

[RyanWind]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Bong

"Nirvana"( Buddhism) the state of peace and happiness that a person achieves after giving up all personal desire 涅槃(超脱—切烦恼的境界).

Bodhisattva :with the heart of a Buddha or kindhearted.

I think your understanding of Buddhism is v. Very different. Or the translator is not understanding much of Buddhism.

Bodhisattva of compassion Avalokitesvara.
大慈大悲观音菩萨。

Where did you get your training in Buddhism?

[Jeremy Bong]

I am a Chinese and it's quite a part of Chinese (tradition) to know/familiar with Buddhism. Although Buddhism is blended with the other practice of Taoism but the pure belief of Buddhism is in Buddha mind person. Like my grandparents they're Buddhists and taught me a lot when I was very young from my age of five.

What we discussed here are quite basis and easy to understand. But if you read from books it may due to the writer points of view or understanding of the Buddhism that give a different ideas and especially the English version.

What I see so far if you have been to the Buddhist school and the head of them didn't start to teach from the beginning then you will mess up or left out a great part of Buddhism. And your learning will be incomplete. Or become the western Buddhism that mess up with Hinduism as western Buddhism.

And don't forget Buddha(s) is with me and easy to teach me directly. So what I do won't beyond their expectations even with advance dharma is not neglects of compassion.

[markings]

From the very beginning, nothing exists.

Dogen

[jonesboy]

Originally Posted by RyanWind

It's actually this:

bo·dhi·satt·va
ˌbōdiˈsätvə,-ˈsət-/Submit
noun
(in Mahayana Buddhism) a person who is able to reach nirvana but delays doing so out of compassion in order to save suffering beings.

I have seen that before but it is not correct.

A Bodhisattva is a being that reaches enlightenment for the benefit of others.

In Mahayana Buddhism, bodhisattva is the Sanskrit term for anyone who, motivated by great compassion, has generated bodhicitta, which is a spontaneous wish to attain buddhahood for the benefit of all sentient beings. Bodhisattvas are a popular subject in Buddhist art.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhisattva

It is all about helping others.