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Old 29-05-2016, 09:50 AM
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The Curse Of Thought Broadcasting - Telepathy's Dark Side

I'm new to the concept of telepathy, and ever since I've become more "awake", spiritually grounded and confident in manifesting my life, I've been surrounded by people who seem to read minds. They seem to be everywhere. Some of them are even saying my thoughts out loud. It can get very agitating and I would start to ramble unhinged and uncontrollably. I would say angry things like "why the [expletive] do you think it's okay to read minds, you people are just creeps" and just like that, it would bring unfair negative attention to myself. This obstacle has brought a major setback to my newly developed sense of direction and if I'm ever to continue my growth, I need to conquer this soon. This has never happened in my life up until about the end of last month and maybe a couple incidents last year, which I thought was just a psychic. I don't understand how people can so easily read my thoughts but I can't read theirs at all (not that I would seek to cross such boundaries). There's obviously a secret of some sorts to concealing one's thoughts, and I need someone to put it into very clear terms. I even feel that people hundreds of miles away can pick up when I say something in my head with them in the back of my mind; which has happened quite often. People I'm on the phone with would respond to "messages" I would send them as a test. Something like "If you hear this, say [word]". They would say the word, but we wouldn't converse about it. I remember skyping with a friend who seemed to whisper what I was thinking as I was thinking it. My exact words were "If you can hear me, touch your ear" and she did touch her ear. After incidents like this, I've become hesitant to look at pictures of people I feel have this ability or listen to music by certain spiritual artists (many of whom speak of ESP) because I'm anxious that they would hear my ramblings and respond. This has to stop. Is it that I have to sacrifice a certain degree of mental awareness and clarity if I am to completely "turn it off"? In other words, do I have to "think quieter" to go unnoticed? Any knowledge is appreciated. Please be sure to put it into clear and tangible terms. I would greatly appreciate advice especially from someone who has experienced this curse themselves and found a way to suppress and/or get rid of it.
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Old 29-05-2016, 04:44 PM
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I can only comment on my own experiences. I am a projector, people see what I am doing or what I am working on. I rely on information that they provide for me because that is one way that I get my guidance. The person is not aware that they are receiving messages from me, but they might speak about a topic that is on my mind or about something I have been doing but they help fill in details that I don't know, so I consider that to be helpful and valuable. They can't 'read my mind' in a conscious way. At the same time, I can't read their mind but if there is something I need to know about them then I will be informed, but only if there is a reason for it and it is not intrusive. I cannot be told personal things about their thoughts because for one thing I don't care, and it is none of my business.

For me 'projecting' is part of my work and validation that it is working is helpful to me. I have a reason for doing this. If there was no purpose then I might feel differently about it.
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Old 30-05-2016, 12:30 AM
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I can only comment on my own experiences. I am a projector, people see what I am doing or what I am working on. I rely on information that they provide for me because that is one way that I get my guidance. The person is not aware that they are receiving messages from me, but they might speak about a topic that is on my mind or about something I have been doing but they help fill in details that I don't know, so I consider that to be helpful and valuable. They can't 'read my mind' in a conscious way. At the same time, I can't read their mind but if there is something I need to know about them then I will be informed, but only if there is a reason for it and it is not intrusive. I cannot be told personal things about their thoughts because for one thing I don't care, and it is none of my business.

For me 'projecting' is part of my work and validation that it is working is helpful to me. I have a reason for doing this. If there was no purpose then I might feel differently about it.

I have also experienced this phenomenon. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 29-05-2016, 05:19 PM
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I'm new to the concept of telepathy, and ever since I've become more "awake", spiritually grounded and confident in manifesting my life, I've been surrounded by people who seem to read minds. They seem to be everywhere. Some of them are even saying my thoughts out loud. It can get very agitating and I would start to ramble unhinged and uncontrollably. I would say angry things like "why the [expletive] do you think it's okay to read minds, you people are just creeps" and just like that, it would bring unfair negative attention to myself. This obstacle has brought a major setback to my newly developed sense of direction and if I'm ever to continue my growth, I need to conquer this soon. This has never happened in my life up until about the end of last month and maybe a couple incidents last year, which I thought was just a psychic. I don't understand how people can so easily read my thoughts but I can't read theirs at all (not that I would seek to cross such boundaries). There's obviously a secret of some sorts to concealing one's thoughts, and I need someone to put it into very clear terms. I even feel that people hundreds of miles away can pick up when I say something in my head with them in the back of my mind; which has happened quite often. People I'm on the phone with would respond to "messages" I would send them as a test. Something like "If you hear this, say [word]". They would say the word, but we wouldn't converse about it. I remember skyping with a friend who seemed to whisper what I was thinking as I was thinking it. My exact words were "If you can hear me, touch your ear" and she did touch her ear. After incidents like this, I've become hesitant to look at pictures of people I feel have this ability or listen to music by certain spiritual artists (many of whom speak of ESP) because I'm anxious that they would hear my ramblings and respond. This has to stop. Is it that I have to sacrifice a certain degree of mental awareness and clarity if I am to completely "turn it off"? In other words, do I have to "think quieter" to go unnoticed? Any knowledge is appreciated. Please be sure to put it into clear and tangible terms. I would greatly appreciate advice especially from someone who has experienced this curse themselves and found a way to suppress and/or get rid of it.

Alright, maybe this will help--

We as a species in general have not built proper thought structures to support telepathy or at least the direct experience of telepathy, not that no humans do; but in general our perceived outlook does not support such a formation--

Well what do I mean by this and what does it have to do with what you are speaking about?

Let us say you grew up with siblings, and you were raised in a strict religious outlook with a high focus on certain values/morals-- That is, you and your siblings thought structures were for the most part developed the same, and in this you didn't question yourself or deviate from the given outlook and neither did your siblings--

Now, if you saw a murder, if you saw someone giving charity, if you saw homosexuality, if you saw whatever event that had designated places in your value system; then you and your siblings upon seeing it would have essentially the same reaction, the same thoughts, though each of these with the flavor and form of the personality it is expressed through--

Now lets approach this from another angle; say you have a friend whom you get along with well, and for the most part have compatible views and lives.. Then suddenly, something happens to them that has never occurred to you-- What might you do? You might empathize with them by imagining yourself in the situation, and suddenly if things are aligned well, you will find yourself understanding their response to such a situation in depth and be able to relate to them your own opinions on such a topic that they might not have thought of--

What is going on here? When people share similar perspectives, their thought stream becomes shaped by such a perspective, and so too their actions-- So, if similar perspectives garner similar reactions, it is like they are tapping into the same well or river of thought; and thus act in a certain unison together--

Well, this can also occur just be being in the same location; by having perspectives near each other, they can tap into the same river (though still shaped by their own thought structures that form their perception), that is all that is required to experience a synchronicity, or a shared thought stream.. is a linking perspective which can happen in more forms than the examples I give--

So, if we wanted conscious telepathy, we would have to build thought structures to do so.. and by doing so do we set up a linking perspective where we are consciously aware of shared thoughts in a more direct manner-- Otherwise, we are experience it in forms of synchronicity, and though you think they are reading your mind consciously, they are merely acting on their own thoughts that align with yours from their perspective--

Think about an argument or debate two politicians might have to bring solution to a collective problem-- You see, they are tapping into the same stream; they are each trying to reach the same conclusion (to solve the issue), however their perspective alters the form of such a solution, and thus it becomes a conflict as to which perspective will be a better a solution.. From there needless to say the interaction in thoughts can get complicated as it starts reflecting itself in intricate ways--

This is happening all the time, however; when you increase your awareness; you begin to free up the thought structures and align with a greater amount of people, however this is generally always flavored by your governing personality; so you might not realize that you are picking up a collective river (but you always are), but there are also many currents in a single river; many paths in a single path--

Hopefully this helps you understand a bit more of this situation. There is much more to this that can occur, as there are indeed things I have left out that would complicate the situation further, but from a certain perspective; this is all you need to know for the moment; in my opinion--
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Old 30-05-2016, 12:25 AM
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Alright, maybe this will help--

We as a species in general have not built proper thought structures to support telepathy or at least the direct experience of telepathy, not that no humans do; but in general our perceived outlook does not support such a formation--

Well what do I mean by this and what does it have to do with what you are speaking about?

Let us say you grew up with siblings, and you were raised in a strict religious outlook with a high focus on certain values/morals-- That is, you and your siblings thought structures were for the most part developed the same, and in this you didn't question yourself or deviate from the given outlook and neither did your siblings--

Now, if you saw a murder, if you saw someone giving charity, if you saw homosexuality, if you saw whatever event that had designated places in your value system; then you and your siblings upon seeing it would have essentially the same reaction, the same thoughts, though each of these with the flavor and form of the personality it is expressed through--

Now lets approach this from another angle; say you have a friend whom you get along with well, and for the most part have compatible views and lives.. Then suddenly, something happens to them that has never occurred to you-- What might you do? You might empathize with them by imagining yourself in the situation, and suddenly if things are aligned well, you will find yourself understanding their response to such a situation in depth and be able to relate to them your own opinions on such a topic that they might not have thought of--

What is going on here? When people share similar perspectives, their thought stream becomes shaped by such a perspective, and so too their actions-- So, if similar perspectives garner similar reactions, it is like they are tapping into the same well or river of thought; and thus act in a certain unison together--

Well, this can also occur just be being in the same location; by having perspectives near each other, they can tap into the same river (though still shaped by their own thought structures that form their perception), that is all that is required to experience a synchronicity, or a shared thought stream.. is a linking perspective which can happen in more forms than the examples I give--

So, if we wanted conscious telepathy, we would have to build thought structures to do so.. and by doing so do we set up a linking perspective where we are consciously aware of shared thoughts in a more direct manner-- Otherwise, we are experience it in forms of synchronicity, and though you think they are reading your mind consciously, they are merely acting on their own thoughts that align with yours from their perspective--

Think about an argument or debate two politicians might have to bring solution to a collective problem-- You see, they are tapping into the same stream; they are each trying to reach the same conclusion (to solve the issue), however their perspective alters the form of such a solution, and thus it becomes a conflict as to which perspective will be a better a solution.. From there needless to say the interaction in thoughts can get complicated as it starts reflecting itself in intricate ways--

This is happening all the time, however; when you increase your awareness; you begin to free up the thought structures and align with a greater amount of people, however this is generally always flavored by your governing personality; so you might not realize that you are picking up a collective river (but you always are), but there are also many currents in a single river; many paths in a single path--

Hopefully this helps you understand a bit more of this situation. There is much more to this that can occur, as there are indeed things I have left out that would complicate the situation further, but from a certain perspective; this is all you need to know for the moment; in my opinion--

Very true. Thanks for the thought out response. I'm sure this comes with "going with the flow" and following the vibe. You eventually tap into the synchrony of your surroundings and learn to read it, it being part of yourself. I've seen this happen often, and older people are usually very good at knowing what people would be thinking/would say next. You don't have to do much around them for them to get a read on you. It comes with wisdom and perception. My grandparents, God bless them, are very intuitive after 80+ years of life experience.

That being said, I must put my situation into clearer terms. I've had about a couple dozen of these incidents in the last month-and-a-half. I'll give a few exact examples.

Recently was my cousin's high school graduation. As I attended, I started to get bored and read an article on my phone. There was a local band set to perform in my town, and they gained recognition on a website I frequent. As I read the name (strictly) in my head, a student said the band's exact name at that moment, followed by "did you hear that"?
At another time, I was walking past a flea market in a parking lot. At this point, my anxiety that some amongst them could read my thoughts kicked in and I coped by reciting a song in my head as to not think angry thoughts toward them if they do read it. Sure enough, one of them predicted the (highly random) words at the end of the line I was thinking as he quietly said them, and said "caught it".
I was having an off-day (which is now every day) because of this anxiety, but there was an attractive lady I wanted to talk to. So I started to build up the nerve. I thought in my head "she's cute, but if she reads minds I can't approach her." She then whispered "I do read minds". Talk about NOPE. Lol.
The last example is the weirdest, because it involves a family member I've known for years. It makes me wonder how long people have been "hearing" me without acknowledging so, and I doubt they would openly discuss it. Last week, I had plans to meet a friend (whom this family member doesn't know about) at 5:30. I forgot about the plans when I met with this family member, and I saw that it was almost 5:10. So I thought in my head "Damn, I forgot I had to meet [friend]". At this moment, he whispered "He said he forgot to meet [friend]. Read it." There's no way he could have learned of my plans. Anyway, I told him I had to go and I became so anxious that I cancelled the plans. This is seriously crippling my life.
Understand that literal telepathy is a real phenomenon and it's more common than one would think. Much like astral projection, except more common from my understanding. I haven't become aware of it since very recently, but it's confirmed time and time again when I surround myself with a lot of people. I have many more examples. I must soon learn the ability to "block out" those who intrusively use their abilities but I don't know where to begin.
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Old 30-05-2016, 01:52 AM
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Very true. Thanks for the thought out response. I'm sure this comes with "going with the flow" and following the vibe. You eventually tap into the synchrony of your surroundings and learn to read it, it being part of yourself. I've seen this happen often, and older people are usually very good at knowing what people would be thinking/would say next. You don't have to do much around them for them to get a read on you. It comes with wisdom and perception. My grandparents, God bless them, are very intuitive after 80+ years of life experience.

That being said, I must put my situation into clearer terms. I've had about a couple dozen of these incidents in the last month-and-a-half. I'll give a few exact examples.

Recently was my cousin's high school graduation. As I attended, I started to get bored and read an article on my phone. There was a local band set to perform in my town, and they gained recognition on a website I frequent. As I read the name (strictly) in my head, a student said the band's exact name at that moment, followed by "did you hear that"?
At another time, I was walking past a flea market in a parking lot. At this point, my anxiety that some amongst them could read my thoughts kicked in and I coped by reciting a song in my head as to not think angry thoughts toward them if they do read it. Sure enough, one of them predicted the (highly random) words at the end of the line I was thinking as he quietly said them, and said "caught it".
I was having an off-day (which is now every day) because of this anxiety, but there was an attractive lady I wanted to talk to. So I started to build up the nerve. I thought in my head "she's cute, but if she reads minds I can't approach her." She then whispered "I do read minds". Talk about NOPE. Lol.
The last example is the weirdest, because it involves a family member I've known for years. It makes me wonder how long people have been "hearing" me without acknowledging so, and I doubt they would openly discuss it. Last week, I had plans to meet a friend (whom this family member doesn't know about) at 5:30. I forgot about the plans when I met with this family member, and I saw that it was almost 5:10. So I thought in my head "Damn, I forgot I had to meet [friend]". At this moment, he whispered "He said he forgot to meet [friend]. Read it." There's no way he could have learned of my plans. Anyway, I told him I had to go and I became so anxious that I cancelled the plans. This is seriously crippling my life.
Understand that literal telepathy is a real phenomenon and it's more common than one would think. Much like astral projection, except more common from my understanding. I haven't become aware of it since very recently, but it's confirmed time and time again when I surround myself with a lot of people. I have many more examples. I must soon learn the ability to "block out" those who intrusively use their abilities but I don't know where to begin.


Okay, that is quite specific; there is something more I must add then to what I have said; I didn't think it was necessary, but it did cross my mind that I should say it-- (was I reading your mind?) haha well I promise I wasn't trying--

So.. This next part is a bit obscure to how it pertains to you, because your situation will be quite unique to yourself.. Now, while I haven't experienced this in the form you are suggesting, I have indeed experienced other beings communicating to me through other people as other people without the other people realizing it-- That is, it provides the same effect, only its not presenting itself in the form of mind reading--

I have had people say things to me, that they should not know; I won't give examples because the amount is so numerous and requires an extensive back story as to what kinds of things were actually said to me; but lets just say it is the exact same effects you are describing.. but the form it presented itself is much different and exposing--

The thing that I have left out, is that these rivers or channels, are like everything else.. alive-- And they are intelligent-- That is, you have something like a spirit around you that is possessing those around you to give you a certain experience-- It can set things up in just the right way so that you believe people are reading your minds.. when really it is just an intelligent stream of thought acting through such synchronicity-- The way it is being done, seems to be doing it on purpose--

It is my suggestion you approach this in an entirely different way than you have, however; this could change the shape of what is going on entirely-- I suggest you make contact with this entity.. What entity, where is it? It is in your thoughts.. it is a part of you and everyone else in some fashion--

I would start talking to yourself in your mind and see what comes up-- This will cause a shift in perspective on how you see your own thoughts, if you meditate; this shouldn't be such a huge shift.. however the consequences of realizing what is going on in such a fashion are huge-- But I would try this over any other tactic, because if I am right.. no other tactic is actually going to work--
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Okay, that is quite specific; there is something more I must add then to what I have said; I didn't think it was necessary, but it did cross my mind that I should say it-- (was I reading your mind?) haha well I promise I wasn't trying--

So.. This next part is a bit obscure to how it pertains to you, because your situation will be quite unique to yourself.. Now, while I haven't experienced this in the form you are suggesting, I have indeed experienced other beings communicating to me through other people as other people without the other people realizing it-- That is, it provides the same effect, only its not presenting itself in the form of mind reading--

I have had people say things to me, that they should not know; I won't give examples because the amount is so numerous and requires an extensive back story as to what kinds of things were actually said to me; but lets just say it is the exact same effects you are describing.. but the form it presented itself is much different and exposing--

The thing that I have left out, is that these rivers or channels, are like everything else.. alive-- And they are intelligent-- That is, you have something like a spirit around you that is possessing those around you to give you a certain experience-- It can set things up in just the right way so that you believe people are reading your minds.. when really it is just an intelligent stream of thought acting through such synchronicity-- The way it is being done, seems to be doing it on purpose--

It is my suggestion you approach this in an entirely different way than you have, however; this could change the shape of what is going on entirely-- I suggest you make contact with this entity.. What entity, where is it? It is in your thoughts.. it is a part of you and everyone else in some fashion--

I would start talking to yourself in your mind and see what comes up-- This will cause a shift in perspective on how you see your own thoughts, if you meditate; this shouldn't be such a huge shift.. however the consequences of realizing what is going on in such a fashion are huge-- But I would try this over any other tactic, because if I am right.. no other tactic is actually going to work--

From what I've seen, I would say it's safe to call it mind reading. Even if it often relays through other spirits. It makes sense to me that some sort of entities have a certain doing in this that we are unaware of, knowing that we are often surrounded by them. That's probably why psychics can read deep into others' lives that go beyond just thoughts. In the same way that people "hear" other peoples' thoughts, I feel that people may communicate with spirits. My cousin knows someone who claims to communicate with her aunt who recently passed. She told us a while back that our grandmother came to her and said that we should always stay on the right path. At first I never gave it any thought, except that she's a medium or just crazy, or both, but after my recent experiences I had to discuss it with her. She confirmed that spirits will talk to you and you will hear their voices. And you can reply by sending them thoughts. After this, I did take note that the voices that would manifest to me when I'm by myself take on certain human forms - male, female, young, old etc.. I still don't know who they could be, but they seem to be giving me advice. I doubt they would be the ones telling people what I'm up to. That being said, I'll make sure to get rid of any delusional thinking about this if it ever comes to mind. But I won't be willfully unaware.

I like your idea that the vibe has a mind of its own, but I don't really understand it. Who are the spirits that surround us? Are they guardian angels? Benevolent or malevolent beings? Are they our "higher selves"? And if so, what are the dynamics of the "higher self"? The conscious river of synchronized thought, what are the dynamics of that? Are they somehow our surrounding spirits contacting each other and telling each other about the other person, which only people who've "tuned in" can pick up on?

I also don't really grasp the concept of meditation. I've heard things like you start to "become more grounded", "live in the moment" and "quiet your mind". I don't even know what this is supposed to mean or what the experience is like. As I become more aware, I'm starting to see my more clear and intuitive thoughts as more of a feeling. A vibe that can manifest energies. I'm not sure if that's the take on the shift of perspective you mean. I would appreciate if you could elaborate on that.
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From what I've seen, I would say it's safe to call it mind reading. Even if it often relays through other spirits. It makes sense to me that some sort of entities have a certain doing in this that we are unaware of, knowing that we are often surrounded by them. That's probably why psychics can read deep into others' lives that go beyond just thoughts. In the same way that people "hear" other peoples' thoughts, I feel that people may communicate with spirits. My cousin knows someone who claims to communicate with her aunt who recently passed. She told us a while back that our grandmother came to her and said that we should always stay on the right path. At first I never gave it any thought, except that she's a medium or just crazy, or both, but after my recent experiences I had to discuss it with her. She confirmed that spirits will talk to you and you will hear their voices. And you can reply by sending them thoughts. After this, I did take note that the voices that would manifest to me when I'm by myself take on certain human forms - male, female, young, old etc.. I still don't know who they could be, but they seem to be giving me advice. I doubt they would be the ones telling people what I'm up to. That being said, I'll make sure to get rid of any delusional thinking about this if it ever comes to mind. But I won't be willfully unaware.

I like your idea that the vibe has a mind of its own, but I don't really understand it. Who are the spirits that surround us? Are they guardian angels? Benevolent or malevolent beings? Are they our "higher selves"? And if so, what are the dynamics of the "higher self"? The conscious river of synchronized thought, what are the dynamics of that? Are they somehow our surrounding spirits contacting each other and telling each other about the other person, which only people who've "tuned in" can pick up on?

I also don't really grasp the concept of meditation. I've heard things like you start to "become more grounded", "live in the moment" and "quiet your mind". I don't even know what this is supposed to mean or what the experience is like. As I become more aware, I'm starting to see my more clear and intuitive thoughts as more of a feeling. A vibe that can manifest energies. I'm not sure if that's the take on the shift of perspective you mean. I would appreciate if you could elaborate on that.

hmm--

The best way I can describe this to your point of view.. would be to compare it to the existence you are already aware of--

You are made entirely of other living things.. yet you govern them in such a manner that at some level you feel like a coherent individual-- That is, you have many cells that have their own order of being, but which you experience as your own order of being-- These cells, can be seen as demons in your mind.. that is the individual beings that make you up in your mind, that cause issues of conflict between different ideas of being; are misaligned aspects of self--

So, in a sense demons can be seen as what make you up in a fashion that attempts to get along from a selfish point of view (that is, they are trying to be themselves, and unless these individual selves get along in an coherent fashion; might be experienced as problems or issues or disease--).. To them you are something of an angel, because you are for the most part concerned about your own well being, but these individuals themselves may not be concerned with the well being of the whole as they do not have a perspective to truly uphold such an order.. so they are dependent on you and your perspective to govern, but you are also dependent on their cooperation to properly make you up so that you can better act as a whole self--

So, this can be compared as to thinking that you are a cell of a greater organism, this organism is made up of many organisms.. and this gets complicated because like cells create organs with their own self to manage, so to do you get different level of beings, whom are interacting-- That is, every being is for the most part concerned with the well being of their self, but does not necessarily have the awareness to act in accordance with the being which attempts to govern them, because they may or may not be aware such is the case.. and thus such a governing being must act in different ways.. like you do not communicate with your own cells in a direct language, you experience communication by rest, eating, medicine, and such--

So to must the individuals that more so directly represent you act, unless they become better aware of the whole-- This, becomes quite related to the mysteries and mystery schools, because indeed the governing order is a mystery, and thus we are unaware of how to properly conduct ourselves in accordance with the will of the whole.. so there is something of politics to this situation.. that is, like we govern ourselves with a government and such, so too are there solutions of such at higher levels of our existence.. so you see, it is not such a simple case of knowledge.. we are a living being learning to work together.. the will of the whole is yet to be known to us-- So, it is not so easy to work together.. and if we are unaware of such a situation; we can easily interpret not getting along with another aspect of yourself as a demon--


So, that is the best way I can describe the nature of situation in simple terms that may better relate the interaction going on--

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as for meditation-- I will try and be more clear and concise of what it is and some of the methods available.. why what you were told can be said as right, you are quite okay in not being able to understand well what that means--

Let us say for you, probably the best way to understand this.. is that meditation is a practice/training directly honing the skills and muscles of your attention span.. that is, you are training your attention and in so your awareness, and so further what you can be aware of-- That is, you are easily aware of an elephant from 50 yards away, but are you so aware of the ants that are crawling upon it? Thus you are training to be aware of the subtler parts of your own existence, which becoming aware of change the nature of the perceived situation, and thus that is the importance of such a practice--

To answer your question about the awareness of thoughts in such a way, yes that is a shift I am talking about, but there are more directions or angles to be aware of yourself from more directions than you are currently aware of.. that is.. by practicing meditation, you gain an ability to maneuver your focal point in new ways, plus of course by direct experience there is more to this than just the focal point.. but for now that is really all that is important to understand as all else will come with your own observations--

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So there are many ways to practice, I will list a few here..

Focal meditation; this can be done with any point in existence and in a sense every practice is some version of this-- Light a candle in a dim room, watch the flame.. and keep your thoughts and awareness on the flame.. think only of the flame-- Do not let your thoughts wander, this will be a struggle.. this is like a force of will, not only must you will your self to meditate, you must maintain this willfulness--

Another is mantra meditation; this is done by repeating a phrase.. and keeping your attention on the phrase (this phrase can be meaningful, it can be meaningless, it can be in another language or a language you know.. though the results might be different so worth experimenting later down the line).. Keep repeating your phrase, and keep your attention only on this phrase; keep saying it, keep repeating it.. keep it as the focus in your mind--

Void meditation: this is actually a bit advanced maybe? but it is how I started consciously meditating (which of course if you noticed your own self defense mechanism and the mantra meditation in correlation, you have to some degree been practicing at least).. But this is where you do not focus on anything in particular, and you keep your mind clear of thoughts by letting them pass without going into them-- You see, this is about controlling your stream of thoughts, or more specifically your attention upon them which governs your experience-- So, this practice requires just focusing on a point in your mind, and focusing purely on that point (which is also kind of no point), and allowing thoughts to pass without engaging them--

This practice can reach a difficult point, because astral projection tends to kick in at least for me.. Which is useful later on, but a hindrance in the early stages, as it is distracting and breaks your concentration-- Later stages you will be able to hold yourself in different realms of projection--

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Another worthwhile note: the practice can be frustrating; it is important to a degree to relax yourself and not have any expectations as to what you will experience-- Many people practice meditation for the experiences it can grant you, but this can be a distraction; I would strictly in the beginning consider it as training your focal point-- Also, do not get mad or upset at failing... this is just another stream of thought to follow down and further leads you astray.. this is why letting go is important.. or quieting the mind.. because if you get upset over not being able to maintain focus, you further lose focus when it is as simple as just going back to your focal point.. it is quite expected you will wander, any time you recognize you have done so; move back to your focal point.. this is the training itself-- This is what is important.. is returning to the focal point, to slip into unconscious thought, become conscious of it and return to conscious thought or focus--
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I hope that is helpful?
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I'm new to the concept of telepathy, and ever since I've become more "awake", spiritually grounded and confident in manifesting my life, I've been surrounded by people who seem to read minds. They seem to be everywhere. Some of them are even saying my thoughts out loud. It can get very agitating and I would start to ramble unhinged and uncontrollably. I would say angry things like "why the [expletive] do you think it's okay to read minds, you people are just creeps" and just like that, it would bring unfair negative attention to myself. This obstacle has brought a major setback to my newly developed sense of direction and if I'm ever to continue my growth, I need to conquer this soon. This has never happened in my life up until about the end of last month and maybe a couple incidents last year, which I thought was just a psychic. I don't understand how people can so easily read my thoughts but I can't read theirs at all (not that I would seek to cross such boundaries). There's obviously a secret of some sorts to concealing one's thoughts, and I need someone to put it into very clear terms. I even feel that people hundreds of miles away can pick up when I say something in my head with them in the back of my mind; which has happened quite often. People I'm on the phone with would respond to "messages" I would send them as a test. Something like "If you hear this, say [word]". They would say the word, but we wouldn't converse about it. I remember skyping with a friend who seemed to whisper what I was thinking as I was thinking it. My exact words were "If you can hear me, touch your ear" and she did touch her ear. After incidents like this, I've become hesitant to look at pictures of people I feel have this ability or listen to music by certain spiritual artists (many of whom speak of ESP) because I'm anxious that they would hear my ramblings and respond. This has to stop. Is it that I have to sacrifice a certain degree of mental awareness and clarity if I am to completely "turn it off"? In other words, do I have to "think quieter" to go unnoticed? Any knowledge is appreciated. Please be sure to put it into clear and tangible terms. I would greatly appreciate advice especially from someone who has experienced this curse themselves and found a way to suppress and/or get rid of it.

I've had a few of these experiences as well.... It is very disturbing..... You just become paranoid, and you feel you don't have any privacy. My first experience was very much like yours, where they would mumble or say or respond to exactly what I was thinking.

All I know is that not everyone is capable of hearing your thoughts, it's these intuitive types that do it.

Having negative thoughts and feelings towards these people only makes things worse it seems. And a lot of these people don't seem to be able to turn off their listening of your thoughts either. It's just a bad hand we've been dealt.... let me know if you ever find a solution, though it doesn't seem like people have mastered this enough to give you any meaningful advise on how to turn it off. But you are definitely not alone, there are others who have experienced the same phenomena, and they are pretty confused about it just like you.
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I've had a few of these experiences as well.... It is very disturbing..... You just become paranoid, and you feel you don't have any privacy. My first experience was very much like yours, where they would mumble or say or respond to exactly what I was thinking.

All I know is that not everyone is capable of hearing your thoughts, it's these intuitive types that do it.

Having negative thoughts and feelings towards these people only makes things worse it seems. And a lot of these people don't seem to be able to turn off their listening of your thoughts either. It's just a bad hand we've been dealt.... let me know if you ever find a solution, though it doesn't seem like people have mastered this enough to give you any meaningful advise on how to turn it off. But you are definitely not alone, there are others who have experienced the same phenomena, and they are pretty confused about it just like you.

Amen to that. I've learned over the past few days not to be so paranoid about it. I focus on staying calm and practice not worrying about letting irrational thoughts slip when I feel that there are mind readers around. I've manifested the messages "turn it off" and "don't think it", and in many ways, it shut a big part of the anxiety and paranoia down. I've learned a lot and come a long way from where I was a few weeks ago. But I still have a lot more to learn. You just gotta be confident and calm under pressure. Eventually, you don't see it as pressure. Or at least not nearly as much. It comes with the initiative and the determination to make a difference.

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