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Old 09-03-2012, 08:01 PM
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Are you saying that patients' explicit wishes not to have their life extended are ignored?
That is exactly what I am saying.

Council of Catholic Bishops Veto Millions of Advance Directives
http://blog.compassionandchoices.org/?p=751

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Old 10-03-2012, 05:43 AM
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Hi all, I have read about attaining liberation on your deathbed so this has got me thinking.

If someone on their deathbed is not clinging at all to life, with no desire, no fighting, with minimal suffering will they go to a higher realm vs someone that is really cling on, fighting, desiring and suffering? Even though both have similar karma and in the end they both have the same amount of good and bad karma.

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I like this question very much! Thank you!

If two individuals are dying with the same karma then one would assume a similar inclination towards the process than polar extremes. However, it is asserted in "The Tibetan Book of the Dead: the book of liberation through understanding in the Between" that we as humans are given opportunities in the Between for favorable rebirths and even entry into nirvana independent of karma (both impersonal and personal karma).

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Old 10-03-2012, 05:48 AM
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Also, the objective is to transcend karma; not be bound to it. Additionally, most karma is impersonal, not personal. Also, karma is more like cause-and-effect than something that carries good or bad attributes. From this reference frame, it is something of an illusion. Yes? Transcending the illusion, gaining enlightenment, we are detached from karma.

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Old 10-03-2012, 05:54 AM
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Council of Catholic Bishops Veto Millions of Advance Directives


That's easy, AP... Just don't go to a Catholic hospital.


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Old 10-03-2012, 06:48 AM
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Council of Catholic Bishops Veto Millions of Advance Directives


That's easy, AP... Just don't go to a Catholic hospital.


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I have not found any here in Chicago. Even Illinois Masonic hospital which is not catholic, would not listen to my Advance Directive.
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