Gods & Goddesses - are they real??

[metal68]

Just wondering after navigating through the forums, so many people think so and I've read stuff to that effect and yet they remain so intangible and elusive?


I find the ideas hard to believe but then I thought well to an animal we might appear almost godlike, so maybe gods & goddesses could be real and just be a higher form of life than us. It still doesn't explain the relative lack of evidence for them. The book I recently read suggested these beings were very much real for ancient man, as in being genuinely present, but that as matter condensed they found it harder to manifest themselves

[DaiBach]

Perhaps gods and goddesses have been usurped by other 'spiritual' entities, because there isn't enough room for them anymore? Since the introduction of television and even more so with the internet, there has been a boom in new 'spiritual' beings that have filled some peoples' minds. For instance, we now have twin flames, soulmates, runners, chasers, crystal children, indigo children, greys, seven-foot lizards, starseeds, young-earth-creationists, Druids (who can't speak Welsh and who've never been to Llanelli), Wiccans and angels (who look remarkably like beautiful Californians) and televangelists.

When I was a kid, we had a few Celtic heroes and heroines (including Arthur and Saints David and Patrick), Jesus, a dragon, the odd spotting of a mermaid, UFO or Tylwyth Teg, and uncle Huw who was a Bard and Druid.

These days there's just no room for any of the old gods and goddesses.

[Jenny Crow]

I believe that the gods and goddesses are real and in the pagan community they are honoured and worshipped. There are many pagans who are open about their beliefs but there are many more who stay away from publicity and forums like this and keep their beliefs to themselves. Especially, there are Witch families where their tradition is passed down through the generations and not even their neighbours know

These deities may seem intangible to some, but to others they are very tangible and real

As for lack of evidence - what kind of evidence would you like to see? Do u think there's evidence of the Xtian god?

[ajay00]

Originally Posted by metal68

Just wondering after navigating through the forums, so many people think so and I've read stuff to that effect and yet they remain so intangible and elusive?


I find the ideas hard to believe but then I thought well to an animal we might appear almost godlike, so maybe gods & goddesses could be real and just be a higher form of life than us. It still doesn't explain the relative lack of evidence for them. The book I recently read suggested these beings were very much real for ancient man, as in being genuinely present, but that as matter condensed they found it harder to manifest themselves

There is a belief that these gods and goddesses were sentient entities in a past universal cycle who had done great good or service. They were rewarded for their good acts by being elevated to the status of godlike entities in the present universal cycle.

In Hinduism, Hanuman , who had served the Avatar Rama with great reverence and devotion was elevated to the status of Brahma, the creator god , in the next kalpa or universal cycle.

Similarly, Mahabali, who had shown unparalleled generosity was elevated to the status of Indra, king of the gods ( similar to Odin or Zeus) in the next kalpa or universal cycle.

In Vodou there is one Creator....well, someone must have put this lot we call the universe here...who is basically indifferent to the wiles of humanity or anything else; and there are Its underlings, the Lwa who each look after a range of things - Zili (matters of the heart); Ogun, (warrior and spirit of anything metal); Gede (looks after the spirits of the dead, and children) etc. They aren't exactly Spirits, nor are they deputy Gods.

At the very least they're guiding principles who are respected, worshipped perhaps, but "fed" and attended to for the good they bring and/or the work they do for you.

The curious thing is that they never change but their ranks are added to, to meet new conditions. Someone is unexpectedly initiated by one such and receives details of what they're about, their symbols and on.

But they're there, very real, as anyone "ridden" by the Lwa will testify. And many of those "possessions" have indeed been put to the test.

(There's also a gnostic side to Vodou in which we are all indeed god-like because god resides in us and we make spaces within for the Spirits)

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[God-Like]

I never really had any thoughts on the matter until about 6 years ago . Perhaps it is all about timing like most things but I would say without a doubt that they exist .

What I have noticed that there seems to be a tier type of structure where the energies of the Gods descend through other energies of translation .

Sounds a bit odd maybe the way that I have put it but it is like a ripple effect that makes it's way upon the earth plane .

I have found that the ripple effect can take the form of symbols / visions / dreams ..

Each God I would say has their own calling card .. I have found my journey with them most interesting ..


x daz x

[LadyMay]

They do exist, but their energies are more inclusive, for example all the cells in your body make up you. Well humans are sort of like cells to a much larger entity... e.g. what we call gods and goddesses. This is why some are attracted to certain deities more than others, because they are a part of that entity.

I always had an attraction to Shiva, his energy is part of my own in some form.

[Serenity69]

I visited Glastonbury around the Autumn Equinox

I had a inner vision of Isis(dressed in a long flowing blue dress) walking towards me by the side of Glastonbury Tor

My mum is the Goddess Isis

She was 9 feet 9 inches tall

Originally Posted by metal68

Just wondering after navigating through the forums, so many people think so and I've read stuff to that effect and yet they remain so intangible and elusive?


I find the ideas hard to believe but then I thought well to an animal we might appear almost godlike, so maybe gods & goddesses could be real and just be a higher form of life than us. It still doesn't explain the relative lack of evidence for them. The book I recently read suggested these beings were very much real for ancient man, as in being genuinely present, but that as matter condensed they found it harder to manifest themselves

I don't think that it's a lack of evidence so much as a lack of what is taken to be evidence. Too much ancient mythology is discounted because it's not literal and there's very little historical evidence for powerful beings that interact with humans and aid their evolutionary progress, but the rise of the Sumerian culture has never really been explained. One day they're scratching in the dirt and living in mud huts, the next they have advanced agriculture, laws and all of the things that go with civilisation. If you mention that it's a throw-back from Atlantis you'll get slapped down.

I think gods and goddesses were real people who didn't see themselves as such but humans have this tendency to worship beings who are perceived as being very advanced. If you believe in Atlantis, one of the reasons it was built was to anchor higher dimensional energies into this dimension and in some ways it 'did it's job' too well, which is the main reason for its downfall. I don't think your gods and goddesses found it hard to manifest themselves, I think if anything they're taking a step back because they're needed less and they're giving us the chance to grow by ourselves. Perhaps all they ever were was the embodiment of what people saw as something to aspire to become like, so in some ways superheroes have evolved and changed but they're still very much with the Child Inside.

If you want evidence then try Googling (with the quotes) "Shining Ones". If I remember rightly there are 450-something cultures that have mentioned the Shining Ones throughout and quite a few books have been written about them, but because they're 'mythological' they're dismissed. The Sumerians called them the Annunali or Els, which is where we get ang-els and the 'el' part of the names of the arch-angels.

[beherenow23]

We are all Gods and Goddesses!