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Old 23-07-2011, 09:35 AM
3dnow
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3d: I always felt that, that there is something wrong with asking forgiveness". There should be another formula. Another, a better, way to be kind.


The better way is for You to do the forgiving. When your forgiving goes deep enough it has amazing effects that sometimes lead to others' forgiving you also, even without their knowing why or how it happened.

Xan

Yes I like that.

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Old 23-07-2011, 02:17 PM
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Yes this is strange.. I don't want anyone to ask me for forgiveness for anything. This is not because I am a very forgiving guy like an angel, at all. But asking for forgiveness, to me, is strange.

What do you want exactly?

Imagine the opposite: would you say "ask for forgiveness you bast..." or something like that to someone? What for?

3dnow
I think God is unconditional love. So there is no need to ask for forgiveness.
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Old 23-07-2011, 04:30 PM
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From my experience, GOD IS Unconditional Love and ALWAYS forgives, but here are the problems I've encountered. Many of us do not realize what wrongs we've committed against the Creator. We just simply aren't aware, so, for example, I grew up disliking the term that I was a 'sinner' for something I didn't commit. I thought, "Hey, I was a pretty good kid growing up, how could I be a sinner?" I didn't know jack about past life issues or even the things that I do currently that affect my spiritual growth. But I learned that whenever I did something to fulfill my need or ego *and* that what I'm doing is going against the Creator's Will, I created sin (aka - karma). The next problem is that once I realized what I've done wrong, I felt unworthy of so much unconditional love and forgiveness. Many times I refuse to accept the love and forgiveness because I didn't feel worthy of it. So now I pray not only for forgiveness, but for help to receive and accept the unconditional love and forgiveness. Hey, what can I say, I'm a stubborn sort that just loves to hold onto feeling unworthy, as if I'm so different or special that I do not deserve to be loved. lol. Although I feel that technically there's no need to ask Source for forgiveness, I have to pray to accept it because generally I refuse to accept it. It's just easier to ask to receive it deep within my heart than to try to force my brain into believing that I'm receiving the love.

I tell you one thing, it feels GREAT when I am receiving the love. All I could say is, "Wow!" No words can ever describe that pure unconditional love from Source. It's just incredible. I don't know where I'd be in my life without it.

Enjoy.


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I think God is unconditional love. So there is no need to ask for forgiveness.
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Old 23-07-2011, 08:20 PM
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That love you felt came from the source within as well. You are God. The Sources will is your will. Feel worthy of love because that is what you are. Love keeps Our heart beating. You are worthy my friend. Accept that love. You are love. That feeling of love you felt is what we are made of at our very core.
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Old 23-07-2011, 08:34 PM
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Hi. I'm not sure that I completely follow your thought pattern but personally speaking, I say that I'm sorry when I am sorry for something that I have done. Whether the other person wants to forgive me is completely up to them. When anyone (including myself) holds onto resentment, it is completely up to them. I guess that it would show the other person that I don't think it's "OK" that they were hurt or that my behavior caused them pain. I'm not sure how this denies their divinity.

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Hi forum,

Since we are all God and God is unconditional love, why do we ask forgiveness to others?

If we ask for forgiveness, this would mean that we believe the other person (to whom we ask forgiveness) is not mature is not God.

So, in this case, asking for forgiveness is actually an insult.

What?

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