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Old 26-08-2014, 11:47 AM
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I agree. I am not sure what good it would do to 'fight it' as it were, it seems a waste of time and energy. It's a good release... Is good unless you are dealing with some sort of sexual addiction...which is a bit of a different issue.
Me slso why ruin the best thing a human can feel ? Why not find that one person and make love? It leaves you more energized because ur also sharing there enrgy x
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Old 26-08-2014, 01:34 PM
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my wasting of precious seminal fluid. Wasting my personal energy.

Very interesting way you put that. I've been with my fiancÚ since we were in the 8th grade. I know it's silly but I have a big problem with masturbation or at least when he does it because in my head, I'm right here.

I haven't read them but there are books out there speaking about masturbation and porn being the 'fall of masculinity'.

I couldn't explain it to anyone and for some reason not even my fiance but masturbation to me is such a waste. Not just a waste of fluids and energy but I would have to agree with the title of that book, about it causing a unbalance in all men who do it. We didn't have porn in the old days, we didn't have such pointless banter about such things because they were too busy protecting their families, kids, food and wife. You know trying not to die 'n all that. Now, our minds are all moving at stupid speeds where the mentality is now now now. Me me me. And then theres another little thing called society that tells you all thats fine. Making you change your beliefs because 'it's okay, everyones doing it'.

Not much people think like me and hell not even my fiancÚ but it's very interesting to hear that someone else feels something. I myself don't even masturbate because I can't, I'd try and it just won't happen of I always picture my partners face. I thought I was alone in my stance and I feel silly that I let it get to me but I think thats another reason why its not good because like me I'm conflicted with it, it doesn't feel good to me anyway and I believe in pure physical sex energiess.
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Old 27-08-2014, 02:05 PM
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The Transcendent Experience is better than the best sex

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Personally .... i feel the best way is just deep COMMUNION with the Divine Mind, it can lift this Energy and transform the desire.

I agree and testify from direct experience that the transcendent experience is better than the best sex. It becomes easy to drop the things of spiritual childhood as one matures and finds something far better. In this way, sexual CRAVING is reduced and even eliminated.

Having said this, it should also be noted that one does not have to be celibate or sexually deprived. Like Shiva and Parvati, when there is a "divine union", then there can be a total spiritual-mental-emotional-physical connection and thus a divine union on all levels within the realms of duality.

The key is to eliminate being DRIVEN by sexual CRAVING. Once that is done, one is free to do as one pleases when wholesome connections arise. At this point, one flows effortlessly and naturally without requiring any particular willpower or determined-resistance as some other posters have noted.
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Old 27-08-2014, 06:54 PM
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Very interesting way you put that. I've been with my fiancÚ since we were in the 8th grade. I know it's silly but I have a big problem with masturbation or at least when he does it because in my head, I'm right here.

I haven't read them but there are books out there speaking about masturbation and porn being the 'fall of masculinity'.

I couldn't explain it to anyone and for some reason not even my fiance but masturbation to me is such a waste. Not just a waste of fluids and energy but I would have to agree with the title of that book, about it causing a unbalance in all men who do it. We didn't have porn in the old days, we didn't have such pointless banter about such things because they were too busy protecting their families, kids, food and wife. You know trying not to die 'n all that. Now, our minds are all moving at stupid speeds where the mentality is now now now. Me me me. And then theres another little thing called society that tells you all thats fine. Making you change your beliefs because 'it's okay, everyones doing it'.

Not much people think like me and hell not even my fiancÚ but it's very interesting to hear that someone else feels something. I myself don't even masturbate because I can't, I'd try and it just won't happen of I always picture my partners face. I thought I was alone in my stance and I feel silly that I let it get to me but I think thats another reason why its not good because like me I'm conflicted with it, it doesn't feel good to me anyway and I believe in pure physical sex energiess.

I have to say I can relate with you. My fiancÚ does several times a day. I don't mind because I still need to work on my sexuality. I feel like everyone's opinion of normal intervals is quite extreme. Where do they find the time and energy? Lol. But this is a problem of mine of being ever depleted of energy so I don't have much left to muster by way of my sexuality.

However, he has many addictions/vises that he puts all his energy in. Smoking, junk food, masturbating, watching tv, playing video games. All are fine in moderation (sans smoking), but besides work all his energy goes to these and they are in excess and he is addicted, I suspect even escapist for him. But for us it's like we are both depleted I guess for different reasons. Miraculously we do wonderfully in spite of this.

But I hadn't thought of this before. We could be spending more quality time in our lives, being creative in our lives, and really living in an abundant way if we didn't get dragged down by our energy draining habits. These little things do add up. They do take up your time, your energy, and we find we are not our best selves but always scratch our heads for the reason, or just put everything we want in the "future".

I think when we build habits we build energetic pathways, just like when we learn something and build neural pathways. So once an addiction begins our life energy naturally begins to flow in the direction of that addiction or habit. Thus it is directed away from every other potential. It is true that it's all about direction, I think.
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Old 30-08-2014, 04:08 AM
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I would recommend you to read Marnia Robinson book Cupid's Poison Arrow - it might answer some of your questions or at least steer you into the right direction. She also has a forum online, where people share their experiences. Basically sexual drive is natural, but just like with eating (which is natural too :), it can become too addictive. Porn is the worst thing and in extreme cases, make its addict not being able to connect to real people, and not being able even to have satisfying sex.
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Old 30-08-2014, 06:39 AM
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I have recently heard men talk about the benefits of semen retention as practiced by the Tantric tradition. You can have better orgasms by not ejaculating and orgasming at the same time. The practice takes awhile to learn.

I like to listen to Devi Ward on Contact Talk Radio discuss human sexuality. Her position is that you can use human sexuality as a spiritual practice. If you can't beat them join them.

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Old 31-08-2014, 01:44 PM
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I like that perspective where human sexuality is seen as a spiritual or energetic practice.

We need to keep in mind that a balanced sexual expression is desirable. The fact that we have been conditioned to see sexual expression as a necessary evil is kind of overlooked. The creator did not make a mistake when this enjoyment was established.

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