Heal self to heal others?

[ocean breeze]

Originally Posted by H:O:R:A:C:E

what you've said here is not at all what you'd said earlier.
i don't sense myself having any "need to intervene", and i could allow you to
"sort out your own problems"... ESPECIALLY since i'm fairly certain that you'll
react defensively to any suggestions of assistance i might offer... yet i'm
willing to to make the effort in good faith.

you had said: "The more healthy and healed i feel, the less desire there is to
help others." is this different than saying that when you are in a healthy state
you have no inclination to help people? the healthy/whole you has no interest
in aiding those who may be in need? you've not said that you've become
unaware of hurting people, only that you sense no desire to be helpful.
i suggest that a disinterest in the suffering of others is not a healthy state
of mind, and what you've come to believe is "healthy", for yourself, is not
actually healthy for you. i suggest that "the desire to heal others" is not
something that you'll want to 'heal' yourself of.

^^ All of that has been answer.

I purposely ignored your question because i wasn't sure as to whether you were seriously inquiring or just being argumentative. I assumed the latter. But of course your doing all this in the name of "good faith" right?

You seem to follow the same trend as seen in pages 2 - 5 of this thread: http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...d.php?t=101629

Its a childish game.

[H:O:R:A:C:E]

i'm glad that my "trend" of caring has not changed.

[blossomingtree]

HH 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet:

From my own limited experience I have found that the greatest degree of inner tranquility comes from the development of love and compassion.

The more we care for the happiness of others, the greater our own sense of well-being becomes.

[H:O:R:A:C:E]

Originally Posted by starnight1

Hi friends,
There is a famous saying: as above, so below, as within, so without.
u dont need to fix the world the outside, u need to focus on within, the spirit guide also told us we need to look within, for instance if u want to heal your friend your cat, u need to find a place a vision inside yourself, and if u work well with that inner vision u heal that one, the outside friend and cat will be healed too, .......
how do u think of this?

so,it actually means, the friend the cat is part of your inner self, if u heal self, u heal the others...?

some of your thoughts seem to be echoed here:
Activation of the Higher Heart and Healing the Healer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVuH18CHxp0

[starnight1]

Thanks for everyone's opionion is helping me exploring more of the idea, too,
i have something stilll pondering, will get back to update it soon.

[vespa68]

Originally Posted by starnight1

Hi friends,
There is a famous saying: as above, so below, as within, so without.
u dont need to fix the world the outside, u need to focus on within, the spirit guide also told us we need to look within, for instance if u want to heal your friend your cat, u need to find a place a vision inside yourself, and if u work well with that inner vision u heal that one, the outside friend and cat will be healed too, .......
how do u think of this?

so,it actually means, the friend the cat is part of your inner self, if u heal self, u heal the others...?

Absolutely because if you don't understand yourself you don't understand others. You however u need the constant reflection from the outside world . you need to take from the outside world what you don't understand within your heart. You have the answers there. Not everyone can do this as you have to know who you are to begin with. Certain people with a higher level of consciousness come in this way and they would be better at healing. I know that my own abilities greatly improve as I continue to heal myself and understand myself.