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Old 24-01-2011, 09:19 PM
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The Um

In the internet hit documentary "Kymatica" it is stated that the Numerical Value of Language has virtually been Reversed to it's Opposite. They (in the movie) say that the Numerical Value of Sanskrit, Gaelic and Ancient Hebrew was/is totally the opposite of say the Modern English Language.

Where I am going with this is something very simple yet potentially something very powerful.

The Aum in Sanskrit: Very powerful mystical or sacred syllable.

The Um in English: Used as an expression of doubt, hesitation, deliberation, interest, etc.

When you say "Ummm" you are also effectively saying "Aum".

Could be the completion of the Confusion of the Tongues: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confusion_of_the_tongues

Your "Um" is your "Aum".

Thanks for reading.
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Old 24-01-2011, 09:40 PM
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Hi Thoughtonfire,

So what exactly has this got to do with Buddhism?

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Old 24-01-2011, 09:45 PM
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Kidding me?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum
"Om or Aum is a mystical or sacred syllable in the Indian religions, i.e. Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism and Jainism."

I apologize if you are offended by my misplacement of this thread. Perhaps you can suggest a better forum section? But honestly, if you just think I'm stupid & the Original Post is ignorant you can voice your opinion and move on. I thought about posting in the Hinduism section but seeing as Om/Aum is also related to Buddhism, I didn't see a problem. This section gets more traffic I noticed.
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Old 24-01-2011, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ThoughtOnFire
In the internet hit documentary "Kymatica" it is stated that the Numerical Value of Language has virtually been Reversed to it's Opposite. They (in the movie) say that the Numerical Value of Sanskrit, Gaelic and Ancient Hebrew was/is totally the opposite of say the Modern English Language.

Where I am going with this is something very simple yet potentially something very powerful.

The Aum in Sanskrit: Very powerful mystical or sacred syllable.

The Um in English: Used as an expression of doubt, hesitation, deliberation, interest, etc.

When you say "Ummm" you are also effectively saying "Aum".

Could be the completion of the Confusion of the Tongues: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confusion_of_the_tongues

Your "Um" is your "Aum".

Thanks for reading.


Hi ToF, yes I would say this is in line with what I've been noticing about the nature of language. I shall put the doc on my list of things to check out.

Interesting, thanks.
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Old 25-01-2011, 01:51 AM
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I'm glad that you can relate, Lazarus!

Here is Kymatica on YouTube if anyone is interested: /watch?v=MkbvJFEQgJU
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Old 25-01-2011, 11:57 PM
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I'm glad that you can relate, Lazarus!

Here is Kymatica on YouTube if anyone is interested: /watch?v=MkbvJFEQgJU

Here's where the film begins to talk about Language: /watch?v=MkbvJFEQgJU#t=19m30s
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Old 26-01-2011, 12:07 AM
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In the internet hit documentary "Kymatica" it is stated that the Numerical Value of Language has virtually been Reversed to it's Opposite. They (in the movie) say that the Numerical Value of Sanskrit, Gaelic and Ancient Hebrew was/is totally the opposite of say the Modern English Language.

Where I am going with this is something very simple yet potentially something very powerful.

The Aum in Sanskrit: Very powerful mystical or sacred syllable.

The Um in English: Used as an expression of doubt, hesitation, deliberation, interest, etc.

When you say "Ummm" you are also effectively saying "Aum".

Could be the completion of the Confusion of the Tongues: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confusion_of_the_tongues

Your "Um" is your "Aum".

Thanks for reading.

Thanks for sharing ThoughtOnFire, I find it very interesting. Something to definitely ponder about.
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Old 26-01-2011, 09:29 PM
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Kidding me?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum
"Om or Aum is a mystical or sacred syllable in the Indian religions, i.e. Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism and Jainism."

I apologize if you are offended by my misplacement of this thread. Perhaps you can suggest a better forum section? But honestly, if you just think I'm stupid & the Original Post is ignorant you can voice your opinion and move on. I thought about posting in the Hinduism section but seeing as Om/Aum is also related to Buddhism, I didn't see a problem. This section gets more traffic I noticed.

Actually not everything in wikipedia is necessarily correct. 'Om' is not common to most Buddhist schools its only used in Tibetan Buddhism and is more commonly used in Hinduism etc . 'Mystical symbols' such as 'Om' didn't play any part in the life and teachings of the historical Buddha and certainly have no place in Theravada Buddhism or Zen Buddhism .

Kind regards,

Samana
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Old 26-01-2011, 10:22 PM
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Actually not everything in wikipedia is necessarily correct. 'Om' is not common to most Buddhist schools its only used in Tibetan Buddhism and is more commonly used in Hinduism etc . 'Mystical symbols' such as 'Om' didn't play any part in the life and teachings of the historical Buddha and certainly have no place in Theravada Buddhism or Zen Buddhism .

Kind regards,

Samana

Oh I see,

Then this should be in the Hinduism section?
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Old 27-01-2011, 08:37 AM
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Oh I see,

Then this should be in the Hinduism section?

Yes, I think so. It would be confusing for newcomers to Buddhism otherwise.
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