Is energisation necessary?

[Unseeking Seeker]

@ JustBe ~ the bliss current is permanent and has been for quite a while now, yes. It is a steady magnetic pulsation, a humming but like a high spirited horse, the current amplifies at any energy centre we call chakra or node, as it wishes and we witness in mood and mode celebratory. The deepening is continuous, combined with flow of soma nectar dripping through in-form conduits, kind of burrowing within.

So yes, it is a permanent state, unique in each pulsation, transmuting form continuously.

[JustBe]

I see kundalini as a by product of the spiritual process.

Not everyone experiences the force of energy in this way.

I for one worked through my individual chakras one by one, balancing healing stuff, moving through my process step by step to understand deeper the relationship to the spiritual path as process.

[JustBe]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

@ JustBe ~ the bliss current is permanent and has been for quite a while now, yes. It is a steady magnetic pulsation,
So yes, it is a permanent state, unique in each pulsation, transmuting form continuously.

If I tune into my chakras I’m aware of the currents whether strong or weak. I feel this current.

But for me it’s not necessary I have to feel that buzzing to move through life.

As an example if I focus on my heart chakra it’s buzzing strong and far outreaching, expanding and pulsating.I’m aware without needing to have it pulsating in my body at the forefront. It’s enough to not know or feel it but know that it is..

[Unseeking Seeker]

When resistance ends and no blockages* (*fears, concepts) remain, the flow of energy becomes imperceptible, just like our breath, heartbeat or inner sound current. However, this said, identification with form is inbuilt since we live in our body. Therefore, a simple shift of orientation where we recognise that we are not meditating but rather are being mediated upon, rotates the polarity of of consciousness from form to space.

The flow of energy is continuous, which is noticed as acting upon the body, transforming it, cell by cell but there is neither need nor inclination to regulate the flow, since we are the kundalini itself, as the kinetic aspect of the energy innate to our being.

From the lower vantage point of ego identity, we have agendas and goals and so seek this or that. However, upon recognition of Self in a singularity, the understanding osmotically penetrates lower mind, such that boundaries blur.

[HITESH SHAH]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

Is kundalini (also called chi, Holy Spirit) activation necessary for non-dual awareness? What’s your opinion on this?

I equate kundalini awakening to spiritual enlightenment. So I consider it as a necessary for non-duality awareness.

I personally dont know of any kundalini activated beings . So u may accordingly read my response.

[Unseeking Seeker]

@ Hitesh ~ why do you opine that kundalini awakening is or leads to spiritual enlightenment? Also, what do you mean by enlightenment and what is a kundalini activated being?

As for non-dual recognition, surely all that which is dual, meaning mind, ego, thought, feeling of separation, all this, all forms of mind-body identification and doership must go, as also kundalini energisation in as far as it relates to balance and union of polarities. In non-dual recognition no polarities can exist, otherwise it won’t be a singularity, will it? Kundalini, as our innate energy continues no doubt but without male and female polarities, in the realm of non-duality, just as bliss in duality transforms as peace in singularity.

[Ewwerrin]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

Is kundalini (also called chi, Holy Spirit) activation necessary for non-dual awareness? What’s your opinion on this?

2 perspectives.
1 radical nonduality:
I don't think you can acctivate these energies. Everything is already energy. Vibration. Frequency. Duality. Sine wave. Positive/Negative. Relative. Including consciousness.

So the word nondual awareness seems an oxymoron.

But that is just one view.

2 Nondual knowledge.
Some views claim that awareness/consciousness is nondual.

In this case, there is a greater non-physical consciousness which extends into physical time space reality. And the non-physical consciousness is said to be a witness consciousness witnessing the union of life as one. Which means, you can tap into energy or chi, by aligning with it. The more positive emotion is felt the more you are flowing energy through you. And the more negative emotion is felt, the more resistance there is to the foundational energy which is the witness of the union of all life as one.
And emotions are indicators of your habbitually practiced thought patterns (believes). As you align your habbitually practiced thought patterns with the unconditional love of your own Greater Non-Physical Consciousness. Then your perspective is in alignment with the energy which doesnt need activation. As it is always there and you are undisconnectable from it. And exactly because the greater non-physical consciousness is always in full unconditional alignment with all that you truely do want.... You will always feel your relative alignment with that, in terms of emotions, primarily. And manifestations as secondary indicators of your alignment with your greater non-physical consciousness of pure positive energy, of oneness unity harmony etc.
And then you steer the ship by the perspectives you hold of anything and how it is relative to the greater perspective and knowing of your greater non-physical consciousnss.
Some say this is nondual consciousness, because it is oneness or pure positive.
But it can also be said to be dualistic consciousness, because it is non-physical and physical extension.

That is why radical nondual speakers denie that nonduality is attainable in any way, knowledge or experience, nor consciousness or awareness. And strangely enough, not even existence. They also claim there is no self. And that this fact cannot be realised. The self cannot realise its own nonexistence. It just illuminates that the self ALREADY always doesnt exist. No matter the experience or belief. And they say that the experience of self and other is the only thing that is a total illusion. The rest are just appearances that belongs to no one, are nothing appearing. Nothing appearing as appearances being nothing. That this is all that is. The beginning and end simultaneously. And since there is no self, then there is no one to either activate energy as you mentioned, and no one to align energy for a greater allowed flow of alignment with Source Energy.

It might all be a different use words and a semantic difference. Or it is a complete disconnect. Of free will versus non free will.

[Unseeking Seeker]

@ Ewwerrin ~ accepting, not negating everything, as it appears in our awareness, even if it be a mirage, looking without judging, without evaluating, the function of awareness itself escapes its confinement as containerised in mind-body apparatus. The stillness continuum entwines conscious mind* (*our sub-conscious already connects past lives memory and the superconscious mind is one with universal mind) with universal consciousness or the all-that-is.

Conscious mind is where belief of separate self is, likewise for the sub-conscious but with deeper knowing of accumulated learning from past lives.

In the no-thought meditation, identity recedes and one day drops off altogether. Ego in fact needs thought to ‘exist’.

So, we have our true being, the Self or the Atman on the one hand and the false ego or identity on the other. The direct recognition of Self answers partially Ramana’s inquiry ‘who am I?’ Then, we, meaning the Self, not ego, invites the light of Self to embody this form. Hence kundalini.

The kundalini generates bliss by entwining polarities in the body, churning away till the transformation takes place. It is a long process, perhaps unending. The integration fixates our attention in all-time meditation.

The knowing of something as a concept, say as taught in Advaita Vedanta points out to the truth but it does not take us there, whereas the kundalini is walking the terrain in lived reality, demolishing all concepts conjured by mind.

Now, perhaps we can get to non-dual awareness and hold onto that recognition without the kundalini energisation but it seems to be a tall order, in my view.

[Ewwerrin]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

@ Ewwerrin ~ accepting, not negating...
... n my view.

thanks I understand what you mean. I think these bodily changes follows mental preparedness. And is preceded by consistent emotional indicators that indicate the minds alignment with its greater non-physical consciousness of pure positive energy, unconditional joy.
The kundalini is also energy motional, emotional energy. But there are many things that open up, when raising frequency. Like new senses. New Awarenesses.
It depends on how good you feel and how consistently you feel good.
Naturally raising step by step, with patience, or rather than patience, enjoyment or eagerness, blockages naturally appear for dissolvement, allowing more raising of vibration allowing more joy or good feeling emotion, more consistently.

Some people may be having so much resistance in mind, that they feel bad all the time. And just feeling less bad more often is the path of least resistance. It is all dependant on choice. The individual decides for how much joy they are ready. It may seem like habbit that cannot be overcome. but once a habbit is realised, it becomes choice. Habbitually practiced negative thought patterns, easily replaced with positive thoughts.

It is really something we do. It can be seen as an action of some sort. We choose to think things. That does make it easier to continue those train of thoughts. And more difficult to shift awareness to positive perspective. But with focus excersized, one is capable of breaking any negative spell and pierce into positive thought realisation. As meditation is also to train focus, which is primary for freedom.

Focus is so powerful that when focused awareness consistently focused on unconditional joy, it becomes more difficult to contemplate or even realise or reach negative thought.

At some point it becomes so easy that you live mostly in union/alignment with God Consciousness. And dying is like walking through one door, from one room into the next room. All the relief from resistant energetic thought patterns already realised in life. While someone who's mostly depressed in life, will not only experience rapturous bliss upon death, but during life, can nearly not realise or commune with non-physical source consciousness.
People who died cannot become a lower vibration than pure joy. And so a depressed person can never come into contact with non-physically focused consciousness. While a consistently joyful physically timespace reality focused/extended consciousness will seemlessly interface with non-physical consciousness.

All that is wanted, desires, are realised by physically extended consciousness. But often the one who realises the desire through contrasting experiences, they do not stay in alignment with the realised desires. So it remains non-physical, held into vibrational escrow by the greater non-physical Source Consciousness, which purely focuses all your desires into ever expansion. Ready for you to realise them or allow them.

In the end it doesnt matter if you allow them or not. So might aswell enjoy life. With an innocent smile. Happy green. It will give meaning to itself. Because the focus is there to allow the realisation of it. And the focus is unconditional. And energy motional or emotional. From the ground up. Like colors. green and yellow. Shining brilliance into the eyes. A colorful eye light masage. Having fun with life in any and all ways. If there is a smile and darkness. Then the realisation of the smile changes all surroundings. With mere focus, the light is expanded easily. Bright white brilliant light. And after a while it becomes automatic/habbit. Like a habbitual happiness generator always running in the background. Why? Because choice. Decision. Focus. A mere act of placing awareness on unconditional joy, instead of the conditional lack of it.
And oneness is easily and gradually realised.
Because when one feels joy, it is the primary indicator of the alignment of the physically time space reality extended and focused consciousness and its greater non-physical pure positive source consciousness. Which holds all of your greater knowing. Source perspective. Vibrational perspective of Source. Ready for you to allow your own knowing of it, through the unconditional joyful alignment of minds focus with it, on it. It can expand one through the roof. By virtue of one smile at a time, God Source Consciousness is realised. And the body aligns in accord.

[Unseeking Seeker]

I found this video by Christopher Wallis relevant to the topic ~

https://youtu.be/iJqjqtFocJg?si=YUAzy1DVi_ZxCiCG