What are you willing to do to have God visit you?

[7luminaries]

Originally Posted by God-Like

Hey :)

I think that some peeps whom have in comparison had an effortless journey to Self believe there is no requirements needed per se .

There is no need for self loving, forgiveness, no need for meditation and such likes .

Hey there Daz ...yes it's interesting, though common enough, that any of us would assume that an easy path in any one lifetime would be indicative of the spiritual journey as a whole and what our own souls need and seek and require for our journeys...which is to grow and stretch and learn in myriad subtle and penetrating ways over any one lifetime.

If one has used that easy path to find more time for difficult contemplation and for actively being and doing authentic love day-to-day...then that easy path has not hindered them spiritually and has served them in its own way.

Otherwise, to paraphrase Plato, it is an unexamined life...and the unexamined life is (spiritually) not worth living, meaning, it is not worth of our lives and our time spent in incarnated existence...particularly at a certain point on our paths.

This understanding would be based upon their individual life experienced at preset and would have no bearing on the potential thousands of lifetimes previous .

Tis a collective of moments and experiences as we know and not just how one particular lifetime goes .

This is part of the ignorance of one that holds themselves to be perfect as they are, as they they that has not as yet realized ..

x daz x

Yes agreed...on this very point, I recall in an earlier lifetime (as a somewhat younger and cockier soul) that my life was much, much easier. Coz even though I was naive and big-hearted, still I took what I wanted and thought all was well and good at the time. As the authoritarian system worked for those like me who supported it and were rewarded by it. It was actually painful to write that last sentence...let's stop there, hahaha...

If I were ever to get too cocky in some future lifetime where the living was easy and once again I was "on top of the game", then remembering that lifetime and all the wrong I did would always provide a serious dose of humility and shame. It is deserved shame... and it is right to name those wrongs as misaligned and harmful. There is a great power in ownership, definitely including ownership of wrongs. Owning that it is right to be ashamed of some things is exactly how we grow and take different choices and a different direction in future.

(BTW To your point that no one lifetime can justify or represent all others...amen and thank God for that I hope all who endured me in that lifetime can forgive me at some point, LOL...)

At a certain point, I feel the soul's growth requires our active awareness, consent, and conscious participation. It seems a large part of our capacity for growth is a burning desire to be more of that which we are. But also it is a simple humility and an opening to grace -- such that we are gifted the ability to live well and to live truly whilst in a state of eternal change and growth, and that we are gifted the conscious awareness of this state. That it is not only ok to live in this state, but wholly desirable...that it is good and true and beautiful.

Meaning, as we've both been saying in our own way, growth requires an acceptance of the reality that we are not ever done or perfected, whilst simultaneously taking ownership (at some critical point) of every step of our journey. We are where we are at any given time, but so long as we seek to align with centre and Source...with authentic love, then we should ultimately find our way. And when we do find our way, we will all realise that at that moment and going forward, that we do so consciously and with great love, gratitude, and wonder.

Peace & blessings Dazzer
7L

[Shinsoo]

Mm, nothing.

If He truly wants to visit, He would visit me regardless of what I did. God is no more moved by the sacrifice of a goat, than he is of fasting, or just waiting in faith. All is Good to Him.

[It Is]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

Haha, does that sound like a funny question?
Well, you don't have to post anything here ...but, it is a very important
question for someone on the spiritual path.

Each day if I ask myself what am I willing to do to see God again...well..
Would I keep my mind focused unceasingly on Him?
Would I do every selfless act I could in love for something in His Creation to stay close to Him and His Heart.
Would I become a vegetarian?
Would I sit for hour after hour after waiting for him, preparing a still place in my heart for another Visitation?
Would I let go of my last possession....my very thoughts again, that ego self...to enter into His dwelling place?
All of the above?
Or do I do nothing really....spend a life doing nothing really?
What effort do I need to do? How do I prepare?


And on it goes...what are we willing to do to be with Him in spirit (who has no gender)...up close and personal...
more intimate than most could imagine?
Well, I think it is imp to ask (y/ourselves).

And what could bring God to visit us...deeds, words, actions?
Beliefs, charity....waiting, emptying, longing?

Since being with our Creator and being in His divine love is the true happiness...it takes individual questioning and study, imo.
I thought I would bring up the topic...even if no one ever posts.

What about the old "there's nothing you have to do" line?

But to answer your question:

Follow my gut/intuition while being prepared to break any/all of the rules!!!

[Dargor]

Nothing, as I've already wasted enough years of faith in him, yet he showed his ''appreciation'' by slowly robbing me of everything dear to me and turning his back towards me. Why would I even want to be with a god like that?

[iamthat]

Originally Posted by SlayerOfLight

Nothing, as I've already wasted enough years of faith in him, yet he showed his ''appreciation'' by slowly robbing me of everything dear to me and turning his back towards me. Why would I even want to be with a god like that?

How can that which is everywhere "turn his back" towards you?

Where can you go where God is not?

Peace.

[Dargor]

Originally Posted by iamthat

How can that which is everywhere "turn his back" towards you?

Where can you go where God is not?

Peace.

I'm afraid I'm incapable of explaining that to you. The only way to understand is to be standing in my shoes. But of course that's impossible, lol.

[Miss Hepburn]

I am willing to sit and be open and turn my awareness to what is inside..
well, that's no big deal since I have done that forever. LOL!

As Adyashanti said...completeness is right here.


And then we have Gangaji and others...You are, what you want.

[Native spirit]

I am a spiritualist and I follow my own path nobody else's I can understand where slayer of light is coming from. and what he says about not understanding until you walk in his shoes is correct


Namaste

[lazydullard]

i couldn't figure out how to delete my reply

[It Is]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

I am willing to sit and be open and turn my awareness to what is inside..
well, that's no big deal since I have done that forever. LOL!

As Adyashanti said...completeness is right here.


And then we have Gangaji and others...You are, what you want.

That last sentence - yes. I think a big part of all this is simply having the genuine desire and intention. The actual process may (and obviously does) differ from person to person.