Integration of meditation or meditation to reach a goal?

[Serrao]

Do you practice meditation as part of your life (integration) or do you practice meditation to reach a certain goal, whereafter meditation is not necessary anymore?

For me, I meditate as part of my living.

I've never heard of meditation to reach a goal. I practise as part of living.

[Serrao]

Originally Posted by Ivy

I've never heard of meditation to reach a goal. I practise as part of living.

Below is a short description of someone who achieved Liberation:
"He does not need to study the scriptures or Vedas. He rests in his own essential nature – Self (the Atma-swaroop). Now, where is the need for meditation? Where is the necessity for samadhi for him? He is continuously experiencing the satisfaction which results from samadhi. He enjoys the joy eternal, the joy unspeakable, the joy supreme, the joy unbounded. He knows nothing but joy limitless and unbounded."

It is from this website: http://www.thekundaliniyoga.org/sidd...ddha_yoga.aspx

Originally Posted by Serrao

Below is a short description of someone who achieved Liberation:
"He does not need to study the scriptures or Vedas. He rests in his own essential nature – Self (the Atma-swaroop). Now, where is the need for meditation? Where is the necessity for samadhi for him? He is continuously experiencing the satisfaction which results from samadhi. He enjoys the joy eternal, the joy unspeakable, the joy supreme, the joy unbounded. He knows nothing but joy limitless and unbounded."

It is from this website: http://www.thekundaliniyoga.org/sidd...ddha_yoga.aspx

What we find through integrating meditation into our lives is different from meditating with the goal or aim of finding something specific.

I read the above quote as someone speaking about what they found - not speaking about a goal that they set out to find.

In my view, when we set out to find something that we think we want, we will find something we can fit to that pre-determined thought (goal achieved). But when we meditate with no specific goal, then we find what is there.

[Serrao]

Originally Posted by Ivy

What we find through integrating meditation into our lives is different from meditating with the goal or aim of finding something specific.

I read the above quote as someone speaking about what they found - not speaking about a goal that they set out to find.

In my view, when we set out to find something that we think we want, we will find something we can fit to that pre-determined thought (goal achieved). But when we meditate with no specific goal, then we find what is there.

For me, meditation is mostly about taking the time regularly to take care of my soul and mind.

I became interested in meditation as a means to consciously astral project, however, i have found that lots of learning comes from being present in your body not projecting out of it! So it has become part of my daily ritual. My only goal is now to learn.

[kkfern]

i did not know it at the time but there was a goal.

the controlled breathing affects the amount of air in your blood. this affects the carotid gland. each chakra is associated with a gland. the 8th chakra opens with someone that meditates.

the 8th is the next BIG step. it is the unity chakra. uniting material and spirit.

kk

[Serrao]

Originally Posted by kkfern

i did not know it at the time but there was a goal.

the controlled breathing affects the amount of air in your blood. this affects the carotid gland. each chakra is associated with a gland. the 8th chakra opens with someone that meditates.

the 8th is the next BIG step. it is the unity chakra. uniting material and spirit.

kk

Interesting...
Where in the body is the 8th chakra located?
Does the unity of material and spirit take place in the body of the meditator? And is this state reversible?

[athribiristan]

Originally Posted by Serrao

Interesting...
Where in the body is the 8th chakra located?
Does the unity of material and spirit take place in the body of the meditator? And is this state reversible?

Not in the body. The chakras beyond 7 are outside the physical body.

[Serrao]

Originally Posted by athribiristan

Not in the body. The chakras beyond 7 are outside the physical body.

Outside the body, but still belonging to this certain being. Sounds somewhat like Advaita.
Are there more than 8th chakras?