A message from Jesus

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Perry J

A closer study of this site reveals that Jesus considers religion as has been practiced - including Christanity - as a major hindrance to spiritual progress.

Ah, you can say that again!
Miss Hepburn

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by norseman

You forgot the "opinion" that he never existed as a single person in the first place. Difficult to be sure when the bible has been revised, re-interpreted, translated, abridged, etc so many times to fit church doctrine.

An agnostic asked me that: How would I feel if Jesus never existed.
I said - to me I never thought of him till 4 years ago and I was doing more than fine.
If he didn't exist - then whoever made up his instructions was very smart!
Do not worry, give me your burdens, do not fear, believe and receive- or Paul's Be anxious for nothing, focus on the things above and not the things on earth...bla bla.
They all work!!!
I have never had a personal encounter with Jesus -I respect others have...in NDEs or in this life.

I personally think Jesus is way too important in Christianity, HA! - the Father
is left out.
My goal is the Father - not His Son, if He was.
With all due respect to Jesus - I think he would be delighted in the afterlife if we hugged and I was in awe and then said, "Now, can we go see Dad?"

Miss Hepburn

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

Somehow I missed this post.

And I also know those 2 quotes!! Btw, have you ever investigated ACIM, Light filled?
A Course In Miracles...I did just this year and it opened me to enormous changes in my beliefs so ingrained in me. Maybe I should start a new thread on what I learned!
Miss Hepburn

I am somewhat familiar with A Course In Miracles, though I confess I have not studied it. A male friend used to call it "teachings from the church of the tight black sweater", aluding to Marianne Williamson's penchant for wearing them, LOL! I do disagree with their stance on reincarnation, however. Not that I have incontravertable proof, mind you, but my gut feeling and personal experiences indicate we do return to the earth over and over to live many lives. A thread on the Course In Miracles might be a good idea Get some lively discussion goin!

Originally Posted by norseman

You forgot the "opinion" that he never existed as a single person in the first place. Difficult to be sure when the bible has been revised, re-interpreted, translated, abridged, etc so many times to fit church doctrine.

Right, or even that he was the actual one crucified! Many say otherwise. So many theories and opinions... who could know?!

[norseman]

"my gut feeling and personal experiences indicate we do return to the earth over and over to live many lives" LightFilledHeart

Good pagan doctrine - the Eternal Return

Originally Posted by norseman

"my gut feeling and personal experiences indicate we do return to the earth over and over to live many lives" LightFilledHeart

Good pagan doctrine - the Eternal Return

Hiya Norse

The Eternal Return... I like that I don't belong to any religious sect... just never been much of a joiner!.. but I do have high respect for the pagan beliefs and old earth religions that honor Mother Goddess and Gaia.

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

I personally think Jesus is way too important in Christianity, HA! - the Father
is left out.
My goal is the Father - not His Son, if He was.
With all due respect to Jesus - I think he would be delighted in the afterlife if we hugged and I was in awe and then said, "Now, can we go see Dad?"

Miss Hepburn

I like the way you think, Miss.... we "grok"

Originally Posted by Perry J
A closer study of this site reveals that Jesus considers religion as has been practiced - including Christanity - as a major hindrance to spiritual progress.

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

Ah, you can say that again!
Miss Hepburn

Here here!!

If you guys want to start a thread on ACIM I'd be pleased . . . they discount reincarnation on the grounds that the study of it in one's past may provide merely a distraction to the RIGHT NOW
- - but I've always known I've lived before I knew it when I was 8 and my mom took me to the Methodist church ! : )

I am delighted over and over with all these comments. Here are many who have come to the conclusion that they must honor themselves and they (you) HEAR GOD speak!
We must come to that personal realization; that we are connected to God. Religion can enter into it but can be a major hindrance It's all about the individual's personal relationship with God; this is what we are here, and everywhere, (especially the Earth school) to develop, create for ourselves and come to understand
when we die and God asks us "What religion were you?" He will throw back His head and laugh with us in joy if we can say I've always loved You and You showed me it's ME, not some written down teaching . . .