Who do you blame?

[hallow]

Originally Posted by Honza

The issue of responsibility is important. I accept responsibility up to a point. But I'm not sure if I am responsible for what others are doing.

Where does my responsibility start and stop?

your not responsible for what others do. Only for what you do. It's up to you to fallow what others do. You choose to be a part of whatever you want.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Honza

I am not the only one here. I'm connected to everyone else. Therefore the concepts that I have in my mind are concepts of others. I may even be picking up other peoples energy within my mind.

I don't believe my mind is separate from the universal mind - I probably pick up on things happening there.

It's hard sometimes to follow what's what Honza, you jump from one thing to another and seldom follow up when others answer you..

[sky]

Originally Posted by hallow

your not responsible for what others do. Only for what you do. It's up to you to fallow what others do. You choose to be a part of whatever you want.

If a child who hasn't eaten in days steals a piece of bread, are they responsible?
Sometimes we are not responsible for our actions, and at other times we are responsible for the actions of others, it isn't so straight forward.

I personally think it all depends on ' Intent '.

[hallow]

Originally Posted by sky123

If a child who hasn't eaten in days steals a piece of bread, are they responsible?
Sometimes we are not responsible for our actions, and at other times we are responsible for the actions of others, it isn't so straight forward.

I personally think it all depends on ' Intent '.

a situation like that. If I could I would choose to give that child the whole loaf and some meat to make a sandwich. I would not punish for stealing. I am the only one who is responsible for my actions. That would be my action. A lot does depend on intent, I agree. Either way I am not taking responsibility for what that child did, but I'll take the responsibility of what I am going to do.

[Baile]

Originally Posted by sky123

If a child who hasn't eaten in days steals a piece of bread, are they responsible?
Sometimes we are not responsible for our actions, and at other times we are responsible for the actions of others, it isn't so straight forward.

I personally think it all depends on ' Intent '.

As true as that is, that's a whole other theoretical question and discussion. Whereas this dialogue is about one very real topic: taking full and complete responsibility both for one's thought processes, and what it is we project into the world as a result of those thoughts.

This entire thread is constructed on a false premise, an illusion really: the spiritual theory that external influences that are out of one's control, are in fact responsible for what goes on in one's mind. First Satan was identified as the possible culprit; and now the idea is being put forward that the "concepts of others" and "other peoples' energy" are what's causing the problem. These are the relevant observations as they relate to this specific dialogue. And in response to those talking points, I would say yes, we are in fact 100% responsible for our actions... or in this case, for what we choose to think and believe.

[Honza]

Well what about telepathy? If someone is talking to you in the spirit realm are you responsible for what they are telling you?

Claiming 100% responsibility for my thought processes sounds laudable but it is probably neither realistic nor healthy. I see my self as an organic and spiritual being and not a computer program or scientific fact.

I am contemplating the issue of 100% responsibility - but as yet I am not sure if it is true or not.

[Honza]

Perhaps you are being way too demanding Baile. I am not a high performance racing car. I'm here to speculate, discuss and learn.

[hallow]

Originally Posted by sky123

If a child who hasn't eaten in days steals a piece of bread, are they responsible?
Sometimes we are not responsible for our actions, and at other times we are responsible for the actions of others, it isn't so straight forward.

I personally think it all depends on ' Intent '.

just wanted to add to this, the child is responsible, but as with any person young or old put in that same situation would do the same out of hunger. But to own your actions and taking responsibility for what you do makes the all the difference. You can't blame someone or something just to pass the responsibility of owning what really happened any why you did it.

[sky]

Originally Posted by hallow

just wanted to add to this, the child is responsible, but as with any person young or old put in that same situation would do the same out of hunger. But to own your actions and taking responsibility for what you do makes the all the difference. You can't blame someone or something just to pass the responsibility of owning what really happened any why you did it.

No it's not the child's fault, it's the adults who starved the child...
We can agree to differ

[sky]

Originally Posted by Honza

Well what about telepathy? If someone is talking to you in the spirit realm are you responsible for what they are telling you?

Claiming 100% responsibility for my thought processes sounds laudable but it is probably neither realistic nor healthy. I see my self as an organic and spiritual being and not a computer program or scientific fact.

I am contemplating the issue of 100% responsibility - but as yet I am not sure if it is true or not.

" If someone is talking to you in the spirit realm are you responsible for what they are telling you? "


But you don't have to listen to them, that's your choice.