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Old 08-07-2018, 02:22 PM
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Well, well, if you don't believe me, there is nothing I can do. Didn't I say not to listen to the intuition that relies solely on past experience? All your arguments come from past experience rather than trying to self experiment to try it yourself at least a few times.

Strange to see yourself as logical when you make assumptions such as this. All experiments are best done without expectations. Of course you won't be able to do it at the start -- all skills take time. Do you expect people to learn how to play the guitar or learn how to write creatively well in one day?

For now, I'll only answer and reply back to you on your questions once a week has passed. I can certainly be wrong, yes, but if you're going to argue back well -- you're going to need a lot more than that.

I'm not asking for kindness, love and acceptance from you, Slayer. This place is already full of people like that and I bet they've already sugggested those ideas to you. No, what I think you need that's different is not that -- but pure rationality and practicality. What SF seems to be full of are people who are deeply kind, yet are terrible at practically showing it in suitable ways -- rushing to change people's minds in absolutely ineffective ways by just telling others their conclusions without evidence.

No strategy on what communities or individual are best to aim. No study on persuasional or explaining skills. No methods given to change what others think through their own personal experience. No deep research into the topics. No study of credibility to analyze other's trustworthiness in their information. They rush to conclusions about a person without asking for enough feedback and questions about their situation. All fluff. No substance.

Haha, kindness without logic won't be able to actually change things, Slayer. And I hope you and the others here recognize that.

Act more than speak, Slayer. Spirituality is not just ideas and "love" and all that, and neither is it the type of pessimism that creates no actual action.

It's also practical. It's also growth. It's also moving forward even when you'll make a mistake.

Spirituality is an experience.

Now go.

If I may; I must kindly correct you that I wasn't arguing back and neither did I say I disagree or don't believe you. I'm sorry if I gave you that idea. Perhaps you are right and the next time when I feel my intuition jumps in I might try to do as you suggested. Truthfully, I was only being honest in my previous reply on how I percieve my intuition, not thwarting your suggestions. I must also correct you that I don't always base my assumptions on past experiences (not sure where you got that idea from but nevermind). My past experiences helped me to be more cautious of people and certain situations, but that's about it.

Won't reply for a week? That's cool. Of course I am interested in what you have to say, but I hope I didn't give you the idea that I need to rely on you or look at you as someone who holds all the answers I seek (no offense or anything).

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Haha, kindness without logic won't be able to actually change things, Slayer. And I hope you and the others here recognize that.

Act more than speak, Slayer. Spirituality is not just ideas and "love" and all that, and neither is it the type of pessimism that creates no actual action.

It's also practical. It's also growth. It's also moving forward even when you'll make a mistake.

Spirituality is an experience.

Now go.


To be honest, I'd consider myself a spiritually AWARE person but by no means am I truly spiritual at all or do I strive to be, as I have chosen a different path from spirituality and rather focus more on other things that I deem to be more important. But yea, perhaps there are some people here who could look up to this piece of advice because I agree as well that many people here make too much rash assumptions on someone/something without much research. I'm no hypochrite though, I admit that I can be like that as well at certain topics such as twin flames.
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Old 10-07-2018, 06:46 PM
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@Magdna thanks for your answer. I believe I might get it. I find that the the more complex my question is, the more difficult it becomes to translate it into something tangible. So I have started asking questions that can be answered with a simple yes or no at some point I probably will get bored with it, and move on to something deeper... haha

I also might get that when you feel uncertain about yourself you sometimes try to do everything to prove that you are right, even when there is no one to prove yourself to.
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Old 12-07-2018, 06:43 AM
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I also might get that when you feel uncertain about yourself you sometimes try to do everything to prove that you are right, even when there is no one to prove yourself to.

I want to say here, that it was not my intention to disparage any in this Forum with that last post. On the other hand, as I stated in my first post... I don't like games at the expense of others, at all. I am rather old and grumpy and have very little patience left in these matters. So, generally, if I am going to be here, I will call that out. Every time.

I also want to say that I realize that my first post here in this thread was aggressive. I meant it to be. In truth, I came back to Spiritual Forums to follow/witness some wonderful and awesome work being done here, in a dusty little room within these Halls. I often stop and browse the threads. Which is how I picked up on a nasty, nasty, nasty, little piece of work... lurking here and there. And how I wound up in this particular thread. The 'aggression' was me Powering up for that particular Spiritual Challenge/Battle. In the end, that one is gone from these Halls and we're still here. So.

'A girls gotta do what a girls gotta do.'


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Magdna thanks for your answer. I believe I might get it. I find that the the more complex my question is, the more difficult it becomes to translate it into something tangible. So I have started asking questions that can be answered with a simple yes or no at some point I probably will get bored with it, and move on to something deeper... haha

I guess what I am trying to say without dragging you down the Rabbit Hole is this.

We, as in 'this' humanity, have a tendency to think it's all about us. It is our habit, though not necessarily inherent in our Nature. We view every thought, emotion, and experience, as in how it connects to us as individuals and us as a race of Beings. How does this effect us... or more specifically, how does this effect me. We have become so adept at solidifying 'reality' to our liking that we have effectively cut ourselves off from ... well ... anything else. As individuals and as a race of Beings.

But reality is not solid matter. Reality is concept. And this reality is Our concept. It has nothing to do with ... no connection to ... Other Beings.

The Universe is a very busy place. We are NOT the Center with everything revolving around us.

I like this Quote very much

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Sorry to inform you, but the Universe doesn't care how successful you are either--when it comes down to the end, You Yourself will become your own judge and jury.


So, if The Universe is specifically talking to us... there's a reason. Which is most probably not, all about us.

In order to understand what The Universe is really saying, we are going to have to step out of our reality and into theirs.

On their terms.

Okay, I thought I owed you a better explanation of my words.
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Old 12-07-2018, 12:38 PM
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@magdna thanks. Seems like the answer to what I specifically asked. And I agree if The Universe speaks to us it might not be all about us at all Maybe I am fine with that because I am no longer a firm believer in free will, and that allows me to step out of our reality and into theirs. though I am probably only dipping my toes into its stream... ?

Thanks for your time and your generosity. You do feel a bit more calm now than in your first post btw.
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Old 12-07-2018, 01:21 PM
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Free will is for those who still have to choose which path they will take.
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Old 12-07-2018, 10:28 PM
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Maybe I am fine with that because I am no longer a firm believer in free will, and that allows me to step out of our reality and into theirs. though I am probably only dipping my toes into its stream... ?

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Free will is for those who still have to choose which path they will take.

There have been a lot of interesting thoughts on Free Will in this thread and others in this Forum. Really thought provoking.

Maybe this is another case of separating 'Our' view/interpretation vs 'Universal' view/Truths. It is something I had not thought to much about until these threads, so I do intake and learn... and it is much appreciated. In the end, I pretty much agree with both of these statements. Which leads me back to this statement.

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Sorry to inform you, but the Universe doesn't care how successful you are either--when it comes down to the end, You Yourself will become your own judge and jury.

Free Will = Self Responsibility.

Instead of a vague sense of an Absolute Truth as a Human Being, that we have Free Will and it is God Given... It would state that we are Self-Responsible for our choices and the end result/s of these choices. As individuals first and always... and eventually and inevitably as a group. Yes, I like that interpretation.

Rah nam, I agree with the premise of your statement... Where we vary is in the statement that One Path is a choice you make and if you stick with it you have 'Chosen a Path'. In my thinking there are myriad, possibly uncountable, Paths. Each Path eventual branches leading to the next choice, which leads to another Path which eventually branches and leads to another choice, which leads to another Path which eventually branches... into Infinity... The Truths that lie along theses Paths and Choices are, in the end, unknowable until we Walk them. So, we can only enter each Path armed with what we have learned from the Path we are leaving and a basic 'Intent'.

I'm open though.

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You do feel a bit more calm now than in your first post btw.

Oh yes. Brahahahaa. It is not my general Nature to come at something so aggressively. Quite out of character actually. But, I was defending a Friend and Mentor and I will fight to the death for someone I care about... In those cases I have a habit of 'reacting' and worrying about the consequences and the cost later. None of which anyone on this Forum could have known.

In fact... 'Speaking of Angels', The only personal experiences I have had with these Beings is in these exact circumstances... I have met these Angels 3 times, when they have stepped in to extract me from the results of challenging when I should have been running. I can definitely state that They were NOT happy about it.
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Old 13-07-2018, 02:04 AM
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On the subject of Free Will and "Universal Truth"

I like to state, I have no interest in forming or changing anyone's view.
To me, coming to a forum like this one, is more link sitting in a waiting room taking the phone out and playing a game of solitaire.
I will not answer any posts if my HS asks me not to or to stay out of a thread. And here we are at the subject of Free Will.
What is Free Will? I only can give my understanding or view of it, the way I understand it, from my view point. Without going into the development stages of a spirit/soul, which are not the same but intimately linked, I like to point out most spirit/souls that are taking part in the development stage within this reality, are here to first experience separation and secondly choose their path, toward the light/service to others/free or unhindered development or toward the dark/service to self/ control.

Who chooses? And here it becomes difficult for some, to see if we have Free Will or not. As long we don't understand who and what we are, we might come to the conclusion the personality (body/mind/spirit) has no choice, and choices are made for us, the personality. Once we fully, not just understand, but sens and feel, feel the connections and have unhindered access to all parts of our Self, we will know that it is We who make this choice.
Yes, the personality can rebel and run around in circles for some time, this matter little to the soul. It sits back, figuratively speaking, and takes it all in. It has no time, since it exists in no-time.

At the end I like to add, at this point in time within this reality there are many millions if not hundreds of millions of spirits/ souls to assist in the transition. Many of them come from a density of 5D and above. They have made their choice, sometimes eons ago, to be in service to others.

There is no Free Will any longer, and if they are awake and listen, they don't need any Free Will.



The Truth, what is it? To me it is very simple, if I belief what I hear or read, it is just that, a belief, yet if I experience it myself than it becomes a truth.
And truth is always personal. It can be factual or non factual, and it changes as we gain new experiences. Is there a ultimate or universal truth?
Ultimately no. Of cause a group can carry the same truth and change it collectively, after all we are all connected, yet if we understand how extensive we are, even in one verse it is difficult to comprehend, now think of all verses, and I have been given to understand, there are as many verses as there are cells in our body. Not sure if we can get our heads around that very easily. Understanding of our existence and creation changes from level of existence to the next. There is never a full understanding, only a higher one. Even if we go to source, there, what we call the source at the center of every galaxy, and there are billions of galaxies in one verse, yes they are all linked to the center of the verse, yet, the tendency for a unhindered development is paramount. (tendency because there are always exceptions)

So if this is correct, that what we call truth has to vary.
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Hello all,

If I may inject, I believe that nothing will happen in three years, nor anytime in the future. I believe this, as I have found that people, no offense, who believe that something will happen, want something to happen to change their lives. That they are unhappy with their lives and the world around them. That they feel they need some outside force to change it. But, I believe that anyone can change the world around them, you simply have to want it. In fact, we all have the power to change ourselves and the world around us. We simply just have to try.

I would also like to say that this world is perfect as it is and full of wonderful people. It allows us to freely interact, to become who we want to be, to experience pain but also great joy. This world allows us to experience all the flavors of life, to grow in ways we never thought possible. To learn who we are and who we want to be. And through it we can all experience true liberation in pursuing our desires.

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Hello all,

If I may inject, I believe that nothing will happen in three years, nor anytime in the future. I believe this, as I have found that people, no offense, who believe that something will happen, want something to happen to change their lives. That they are unhappy with their lives and the world around them. That they feel they need some outside force to change it. But, I believe that anyone can change the world around them, you simply have to want it. In fact, we all have the power to change ourselves and the world around us. We simply just have to try.

I would also like to say that this world is perfect as it is and full of wonderful people. It allows us to freely interact, to become who we want to be, to experience pain but also great joy. This world allows us to experience all the flavors of life, to grow in ways we never thought possible. To learn who we are
and who we want to be. And through it we can all experience true liberation in pursuing our desires.

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Do you enjoy that infinite loop? When does that end?
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Do you enjoy that infinite loop? When does that end?

Do you mean I enjoy life, the people in it and the world around me? Then yes, I do. Life is the best experience in the universe with all of its ups and downs, twists and turns. I personally think the downs are the best for learning who you are, and I would never trade them away. For ending, I suppose it happens when you die, although I always liked the idea of coming back again. But, that is not for me to decide.

Find the joy in little things, and how life made you who you are today. You will come to love it. And find your true passion and pursue it, it is a very liberating experience.
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