Spiritulism classed as witchcraft in the bible

I have recently spoken to a vicar whilst arranging a family funeral. As we got talking i mentioned in conversation that i wasvery much into spiritulism/ Mediumship from a young age and had recently had a reading. He told me that in the bible this practice was classed as witchcraft and the church was very against it. I then proceeded to tell him that Jesus died and rose again and also eternal life. He had to think about his answer. Then he told me who the local exorcism preist was for the area where i live. So if they dont tolerate or believe in the subject why do they have a specific preist local for exercisms. And why did Jesus die for us and rise again. Anyone know as im confussed. com

[Sarian]

I think really that take this website for example, probably 95 percent of it would be classified as witchcraft and/or demonic according to the bible...

hmmmm...In the old testament I believe they were referring to contacting the dead for information, such as divining the future and such. So from a religious stand point they should be seeking God not the dead. Exorcist are mainly used in cases of demonic possession, I think that some may confuse this with being possessed by the spirit of the dead. It could simply be the case of the church separating it from what they believe is God lead spiritualism vs dead lead. If it isn't coming from God than it is of the devil, that kind of thinking is how they justify what they believe. Of course to me the gift of prophesy is pretty much the same thing. Just my opinion and I welcome those who know better to clear up anything I may have gotten wrong.

nightowl

I don't believe in the bible but I do believe in most aspects of Spiritualism including talking to the dead even though I don't have that ability. I, personally, don't think Spiritualism and Christianity are not compatible with one another as both have different beliefs what contradict each other plus I find many aspects of Christianity to be unrealistic and scientifially inaccurate.

An interesting report on an investigation done by the Church of England into Spiritualism in 1937.

www dot cfpf dot org dot uk / articles / religion / cofe_report / cofe_report dot html (my apologies for putting the web address this way - I've not posted enough to be allowed to put url's into my posts ...)

It was suppressed at the time, but later 'leaked' to the Psychic News in the late 1960s.

Originally Posted by daddysgirl

I have recently spoken to a vicar whilst arranging a family funeral. As we got talking i mentioned in conversation that i wasvery much into spiritulism/ Mediumship from a young age and had recently had a reading. He told me that in the bible this practice was classed as witchcraft and the church was very against it. I then proceeded to tell him that Jesus died and rose again and also eternal life. He had to think about his answer. Then he told me who the local exorcism preist was for the area where i live. So if they dont tolerate or believe in the subject why do they have a specific preist local for exercisms. And why did Jesus die for us and rise again. Anyone know as im confussed. com

There's a huge amount of ignorance in mainstream churches - priests are just doing their jobs and it's unrealistic to expect much of them in terms of enlightenment about life, death and what follows. Their religions are full of ludicrous stories and belief of what can't be explained is routinely expected. Priests are the last ones to ask about life and death, unless you're prepared to accept mumbo-jumbo.

If you genuinely want to understand about survival beyond death, mediumship et al then there's an abundance of information available.

Modern Spiritualism, or just 'Spiritualism' to use its usual name, has been explaining the issues you're confused about for many decades and its guidance is available for all.

No-one is expected to believe anything as issues are fully explained.

About two years ago, I began to read the Bible so I would understand and know it better. I felt defenseless when people interpreted to suit themselves. It angered me to see them do that.

By reading it, I not only learned about it, but experienced some lovely spiritual progress. I know that just because someone is Christian or in the ministry, it does not mean they are perfect. They are human just like the rest of us. If we are knowledgeable, perhaps we can kindly and patiently enlighten them.

About a year into my reading of it, one of my friends who is very Christian told me she was afraid the devil was behind the healing I do. I told her to go back and read her Bible again, especially the Books of Mathew, Luke and John.

To her credit, she did and came back and apologized to me.

A couple of months ago, a Christian woman accused me (very sweetly) of saying I was a prophet, all the while holding her Bible. I told her that I was not indeed. I only did what we all can do with Jesus and faith. Rather than just saying memorized prayers, I talk with him face to face.

I then encouraged her to ask herself why she thought she was unworthy of him. We don't need anyone to go to him for us. He is available to us all. I reminded her that he says that if we only had the faith of a mustard seed, we could do all that he can do and more.

To her credit, she spoke to friends at her church and they encouraged her to develop a friendship with me and she has. She is just lovely. She was only misguided.

Originally Posted by MYFIGO

About two years ago, I began to read the Bible so I would understand and know it better. I felt defenseless when people interpreted to suit themselves. It angered me to see them do that.

By reading it, I not only learned about it, but experienced some lovely spiritual progress. I know that just because someone is Christian or in the ministry, it does not mean they are perfect. They are human just like the rest of us. If we are knowledgeable, perhaps we can kindly and patiently enlighten them.

About a year into my reading of it, one of my friends who is very Christian told me she was afraid the devil was behind the healing I do. I told her to go back and read her Bible again, especially the Books of Mathew, Luke and John.

To her credit, she did and came back and apologized to me.

A couple of months ago, a Christian woman accused me (very sweetly) of saying I was a prophet, all the while holding her Bible. I told her that I was not indeed. I only did what we all can do with Jesus and faith. Rather than just saying memorized prayers, I talk with him face to face.

I then encouraged her to ask herself why she thought she was unworthy of him. We don't need anyone to go to him for us. He is available to us all. I reminded her that he says that if we only had the faith of a mustard seed, we could do all that he can do and more.

To her credit, she spoke to friends at her church and they encouraged her to develop a friendship with me and she has. She is just lovely. She was only misguided.

A nice account with a positive outcome.

I sometimes discuss my own specialism with LDS etc. but I will NEVER allow them to quote from their Bibles. I insist that they explain only using their own words and without the weapons of chapter and verse to beat me into submission. That levels the playing field considerably!

They're then like children who have taken off their swim aids in the pool and thrash around without direction and constantly at risk of slipping beneath the surface of the water....

Neither do I disclose my own religious persuasion or specialty, responding only to the points they try to make but with which they struggle without the support of their props.

Just to butt in here.
I was brought up in the C of E and my father's funeral was taken by a minister of that church.

He kept his eyes fixed on me and looking above me with a smile on his face.
After the funeral he came to chat with hubby and I.
His first question was 'Did we believe that we lived after death'.
Hubby answered 'Yes'.
That minister took us to one side and promptly told me that my father was standing behind me with his hands on my shoulders.

That was a minister of the C of E.
It is surprising how many men of God quietly do keep faith with the spiritualist religion.

Deepsea

[Adrienne]

Wow, deepsea, that was very cool for the priest to have told you that !

Dream Angel xx