Spirituality VS Science

[dreamer-rags]

I was very surprised when I saw this particular forum, as I've noticed many believe science and spirituality contradict each other. It seems people who are very scientific are not often spiritual, and vice versa. Examples are religious folks not believing in evolution, scientific folks not believing in god or a higher power, etc..

Thing is these two areas... well, they don't really contradict each other. For me science and spirituality have always worked together in harmony, and I love both. They're very similar if you ask me.

Any opinions on this?

[r6r6]

Originally Posted by dreamer-rags

Examples are religious folks not believing in evolution, scientific folks not believing in god or a higher power, etc..
Any opinions on this?

If God is defined as "U"niverse or Universe, I think you have many people on board spiritual and not.

A volcano is much higher power if not one of the most powerful on Earth. The only people who do no believe that are people who know little about the true depth of power volcanoes have exhibited on Earth in past.

Th e list goes on and on for much higher powers on Earth and beyond.

r6

[Baile]

Esoteric understanding sees religion and science at the opposite ends of the knowledge spectrum. The "middle path" of the wisdom seeker falls between the two, a balancing of those two extreme positions. Evolution is both factual, and not what happened with humanity. Creation is both factual, and incorrect in the way religion understands it. And so forth.

[Interuniversalism]

Originally Posted by dreamer-rags

I was very surprised when I saw this particular forum, as I've noticed many believe science and spirituality contradict each other. It seems people who are very scientific are not often spiritual, and vice versa. Examples are religious folks not believing in evolution, scientific folks not believing in god or a higher power, etc..

Thing is these two areas... well, they don't really contradict each other. For me science and spirituality have always worked together in harmony, and I love both. They're very similar if you ask me.

Any opinions on this?

I agree with you. They are not against. Though some people from both sides confront each other on some issues. Science really backs up spirituality , unintentionally perhaps.
They are different in the sense that in science perception is done only by the five physical senses but spirituality not only uses that but also examines creation on the platform of love. You can't experiment it like in science. From one point onward it is a personal experience.
On the other hand many scientists believe there powers at work that they cannot explain. After all spirituality doesn't mean supernatural. All things we believe in are created and part of the existence but the way of perception them is different because they are not made of matter or energy. Physical world that we know through our senses are only 4 percent of the universe.

[Baile]

Originally Posted by Interuniversalism

Science really backs up spirituality , unintentionally perhaps.

Does the science of medicine for example take into account the soul? No. Does the science of the cosmos discuss the music of the spheres? No. Science is to material belief about life, what religion is to faith belief in spirit.

[smilingsun]

Originally Posted by dreamer-rags

I was very surprised when I saw this particular forum, as I've noticed many believe science and spirituality contradict each other. It seems people who are very scientific are not often spiritual, and vice versa. Examples are religious folks not believing in evolution, scientific folks not believing in god or a higher power, etc..

Thing is these two areas... well, they don't really contradict each other. For me science and spirituality have always worked together in harmony, and I love both. They're very similar if you ask me.

Any opinions on this?

In the future there won't be any contradiction between science, spirituality because humanity will have evolved. When one has embraced the masculine side as well as the feminine side, when one can use the right brain as well as the left brain and when they are linked together, when one is able to use intuition as well as logic then science and spirituality will be the same thing.
To me there is no difference between science, art and spirituality.

[Busby]

We must not underestimate science. It's a fascinating thought to consider that all that man has wanted or dreamed of achieving has been and is being accomplished. We should never say 'it can't be done', because there are enough people who spend their lives looking to achieve the impossible.
This totally unrestriced scientifically awaited future is, in my mind, to be understood to be completely without boundaries.
This, because the environment in which our knowledge grows is that which we, at the moment, call spiritual and will probably however, in the future be recognised as an empty landscape filled with potential. Mental potential, that background 'noise' which gives birth to out thoughts. The real duality in this universe is mental/physical. There's no need for anything else.

[r6r6]

Religion has the nebulous soul reaaly just same as saying biological. imho There like synonyms. Not complex to grasp

Quasi-science has their nebulous aether. Really just space-time and the property of space-time is gravity.

Science has their less nebulous dark matter, dark energy and property of space-time called gravity.

r6

Originally Posted by r6r6r

If God is defined as "U"niverse or Universe, I think you have many people on board spiritual and not.
A volcano is much higher power if not one of the most powerful on Earth. The only people who do no believe that are people who know little about the true depth of power volcanoes have exhibited on Earth in past.
The list goes on and on for much higher powers on Earth and beyond.

[dreamer-rags]

Originally Posted by Baile

Esoteric understanding sees religion and science at the opposite ends of the knowledge spectrum. The "middle path" of the wisdom seeker falls between the two, a balancing of those two extreme positions.

I love the way you put this. :)

Originally Posted by Busby

This, because the environment in which our knowledge grows is that which we, at the moment, call spiritual and will probably however, in the future be recognised as an empty landscape filled with potential.

That's an absolutely beautiful vision. I believe we could know a future like this.

[FallingLeaves]

Originally Posted by Baile

Does the science of medicine for example take into account the soul? No. Does the science of the cosmos discuss the music of the spheres? No. Science is to material belief about life, what religion is to faith belief in spirit.

but none of that stops me from 'borrowing' scientific activities to help me learn about spirituality. I'm just not going to get agreement from others for my POV....