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30-01-2019, 04:33 PM
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Question about LGBT.
I know what the Bible says about the issue but do you think it means that people who live in loving gay relationships are also committing a sin?
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30-01-2019, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by candyfloss28
I know what the Bible says about the issue but do you think it means that people who live in loving gay relationships are also committing a sin?
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No... You love whoever you love and if others can't accept you for who you are then that's their problem
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31-01-2019, 02:38 PM
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It is possible to have a loving gay relationship as long as that relationship doesn't involve sex. Sex is permissible only between a man and woman who are married to each other.
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31-01-2019, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by theophilus
It is possible to have a loving gay relationship as long as that relationship doesn't involve sex. Sex is permissible only between a man and woman who are married to each other.
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Or more to the point, maybe in Gods eye, sex is only permissible between true soul mates & not permissible between just any man and a woman.
And that the act of an earthly marriage is not recognized by God, and so sex between true soulmates "is" permissible at any age after becoming of a reasonable understanding of life and maturity, and without them being earthly married.
because in Gods eye, soul mates do not need to be bound by a written document, as they are eternally bound by a spiritual soulmate force/signature which is all ready recognized by God.
And there is only ever one soulmate for any one person...EVER.
However memories are with us for eternity and if we are sexual with persons other than our one and only true soulmate and sometime in the future we have become more developed in Gods love, maybe it would be for our betterment that we do not have thoughts of being with any other persons, because it is said that at some time in the future after becoming divine christed beings, we can re-merge with our soul mate and in effect become "as one" once again...as we once were, before the male/female "whole soul" did split into two seperate components, of male/female...YING/YANG....before our conception into life. And in which case all of our memories LOVING AND OR UNLOVING...SWEET AND OR DISGUSTING would be fully accessible to our soulmate, in full colour and intensity as if they happened yesterday.
BUT we do have free will and we can do what ever we choose, but God would prefer that the things that we do, are never unloving to any other being. And that is where the law of REAP AS YOU SOW comes into play, in a negative way.
And as per usual, all of the above is for your considerations only.
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05-02-2019, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sky123
No... You love whoever you love and if others can't accept you for who you are then that's their problem
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it's not about what another human thinks or feel, because we ALL are imperfect. i personally don't care what anyone does with their lives. but if I claim to be a "Christian" I join the side of Jehovah God and Jesus, who can save me Soul, or imperfect man, who can't. a "Christian" will either obey Jehovah God's words, or live as he please. which could mean our life ,( James 1:14,15 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death).
if one claim to follow Jesus, then Jesus stated that we must, push ourselves aside and follow him ,( Luke 9:23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me). MANY hear the world of God, but refuse to obey it ,( James 1:22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves). what ever a "Christian" do, it should be to the Glory of God ,( 1Cor. 10:31 Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God).
MANY don't either seem to understand what he meant, or just selfishly refuse to. even if MANY refuse to hear it, these are what Jehovah God called "wicked acts." we as "Christians" should walk in the ways that Jesus had shown us. if it means changing ways that unpleases "GOD", then that's what we should do,( Psa. 119:101 I have refrained my feet from every evil way, that I might keep thy word). we shouldn't be into fleshing and worldly love ,( 1John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world). but, it's whoever's world.
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05-02-2019, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jojo50
it's not about what another human thinks or feel, because we ALL are imperfect. i personally don't care what anyone does with their lives. but if I claim to be a "Christian" I join the side of Jehovah God and Jesus, who can save me Soul, or imperfect man, who can't. a "Christian" will either obey Jehovah God's words, or live as he please. which could mean our life ,(James 1:14,15 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death).
if one claim to follow Jesus, then Jesus stated that we must, push ourselves aside and follow him ,(Luke 9:23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me). MANY hear the world of God, but refuse to obey it ,(James 1:22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves). what ever a "Christian" do, it should be to the Glory of God ,(1Cor. 10:31 Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God).
MANY don't either seem to understand what he meant, or just selfishly refuse to. even if MANY refuse to hear it, these are what Jehovah God called "wicked acts." we as "Christians" should walk in the ways that Jesus had shown us. if it means changing ways that unpleases "GOD", then that's what we should do,(Psa. 119:101 I have refrained my feet from every evil way, that I might keep thy word). we shouldn't be into fleshing and worldly love ,(1John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world). but, it's whoever's world.
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Thankfully my God is not perceived as you percieve yours
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05-02-2019, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sky123
Thankfully my God is not perceived as you percieve yours
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that's what its all about 'perception'
I don't think it ever was about different gods it was only about how God is perceived
and how to judge the rightness or wrongness of someone's perception
Jesus said it best 'by their fruits' what is the end result of their perception of God
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10-11-2019, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sky123
Thankfully my God is not perceived as you percieve yours
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I know, not everyone worships the same god.
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25-02-2019, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jojo50
it's not about what another human thinks or feel, because we ALL are imperfect. i personally don't care what anyone does with their lives. but if I claim to be a "Christian" I join the side of Jehovah God and Jesus, who can save me Soul, or imperfect man, who can't. a "Christian" will either obey Jehovah God's words, or live as he please. which could mean our life ,(James 1:14,15 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death).
if one claim to follow Jesus, then Jesus stated that we must, push ourselves aside and follow him ,(Luke 9:23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me). MANY hear the world of God, but refuse to obey it ,(James 1:22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves). what ever a "Christian" do, it should be to the Glory of God ,(1Cor. 10:31 Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God).
MANY don't either seem to understand what he meant, or just selfishly refuse to. even if MANY refuse to hear it, these are what Jehovah God called "wicked acts." we as "Christians" should walk in the ways that Jesus had shown us. if it means changing ways that unpleases "GOD", then that's what we should do,(Psa. 119:101 I have refrained my feet from every evil way, that I might keep thy word). we shouldn't be into fleshing and worldly love ,(1John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world). but, it's whoever's world.
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Its all mans interpretation of what God likes or doesn't
You can take any bunch of scriptures and make out what you want them to say. That is all we are doing i recon. One person thinks God is an almighty, fearsome judge who seems kind of evil, another that he is love. We make God how we want him to be.
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26-02-2019, 06:51 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: The Matrix
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Originally Posted by davidmartin
Its all mans interpretation of what God likes or doesn't
You can take any bunch of scriptures and make out what you want them to say. That is all we are doing i recon. One person thinks God is an almighty, fearsome judge who seems kind of evil, another that he is love. We make God how we want him to be.
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This is true d.m., but it is a case of subjectivity vs. objectivity. Isn't it?
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