Jesus brought truth

John 20:17, Rev 3:12--tells all at John 17:3--the one who sent him=Father is the only true God
Why is it like pulling teeth asking a trinitarian to believe Jesus whom they claim to serve? The ones sharing truth to the flock, that have Jesus teach exactly what Jesus teaches. otherwise you have found these =2Corinthians 11:12-15--these teach dogma over the truths Jesus brought. They are misleading all who listen to them to not enter Gods kingdom.

[sky]

Originally Posted by kjw47

John 20:17, Rev 3:12--tells all at John 17:3--the one who sent him=Father is the only true God

John 10:30 (KJV)
My Father and I are one.

Colossians 2:9 (NKJV)
For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.

John 1:1 (ESV)
In the beginning was the Word (Christ) and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Colossians 1:16. (ESV)
For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. 17 And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

Rev: 22:13 (KJV)
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

And many more if anyone is interested.... Just Google.....

[Miss Hepburn]

kjw, Are you saying if anyone believes all in Post #2 they will not enter into 'God's Kingdom'?
And if so...why not?
.....
(We can post up to 3 sentences from any book,btw.) So: 2 Cor,
14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness,
whose end will be according to their works.

How are you applying the above as saying all in Post #2 is from satan, also; relating to:
If you believe in the Trinity - you do not enter God's Kingdom?

I'm not following your thinking.

[jojo50]

Originally Posted by kjw47

John 20:17, Rev 3:12--tells all at John 17:3--the one who sent him=Father is the only true God

true! all of us who say that we believe and follow Jesus. should be in TOTAL agreement with what he said and taught. I know many who are stuck on (John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God"). this was what those I've talked with say, Jesus was God, as in the Almighty. then I asked, why did you leave out the part that said, "and the Word was with God?" they usually get stuck when trying to either explain that part away. or just trying to explain it to fit what they believe. which often turn out to make no sense. but I'm not shocked, MANY didn't even listen to Jesus. and he said MANY won't listen to the truth.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by jojo50

then I asked, why did you leave out the part that said, "and the Word was with God?" they usually get stuck when trying to either explain that part away.

KJV is: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Later in John 1:8-9 KJV
8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

All of these words could confuse anyone! And I am not seeing why someone would think because
of this confusion those people
would not be able to enter 'God's Kingdom'.

[jojo50]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

kjw, How are you applying the above as saying all in Post #2 is from satan, also; relating to: If you believe in the Trinity - you do not enter God's Kingdom? I'm not following your thinking.

I talked with MANY, to believe that Jesus IS! his Father, (those who say they follow and believe Jesus words), are actually going against his Father and his God's words, (John 14:24 He that love me not keep not my sayings: and the word which you hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me).

and he said at John 17:3, which kjw posted, that we have to take in knowledge of the ONLY true God as well as getting to know Jesus if we wanted life. Jesus shows he and his Father are TWO separate Beings. the reason one will NOT make it into the New Kingdom. is because we allow satan to blind us from the truth, truth leads to salvation, (1Tim. 2:4 who will have all men to be saved and to come unto the knowledge of the truth).

research on the origin of the "trinity" shows how and why it because part of the Christendom teachings. Jesus basically told the Pharisees that their actions will cause themselves and their followers to lose salvation, (Matt. 23:13 “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in). peace

[sky]

Originally Posted by jojo50

I talked with MANY, to believe that Jesus IS! his Father, (Jesus shows he and his Father are TWO separate Beings.]

It depends on which Bible you use many show Jesus and the Father as being one and the same deity.....

[sky]

Originally Posted by ThatMan

Because using this fear mongering thing you get people to follow your beliefs, every now and then someone comes on the christian forum doing exactly the same thing, everybody else is wrong, I have the correct interpretation, adhere to my beliefs or else not enter the kingdom of God

Little do they know that the Kingdom of God is within and you can ' Enter' now

[BigJohn]

sky,
the scriptures mentioned in Post #2 do not support a trinity. If anything, they support a 'two in one".

In regards to Post #8, Colossians 1:15 claims Jesus was the first born of creation whereas God has no creation. How can that be?

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by ThatMan

...fear mongering ... everybody else is wrong,
I have the correct interpretation,
adhere to my beliefs or else not enter the Kingdom of God....

I was going to bring up 'fear mongering', (not allowed in the Forum Rules, btw),
in a few more posts.
Not that people can't choose what they believe, mind you.