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I think the question relates to self-awareness, and how things that are most normal and natural are invisible. For example, in the West we notice Indians have that head wobble, but in India, they don't really notice, 'oh I'm wobbling my head now,' or, 'Oh Patel wobbles his head,' - because head wobbles are completely normal.


'The tiger' is lethal in a normal way, which means our normal, unremarkable, unnoticed, behaviour can be very harmful.


To make 'the tiger' aware of its own deadliness, the tiger has to be aware of what it does, the intent behind it, and the harm it causes. Of course 'the tiger' isn't literally a tiger. It is about yourself being unconsciously normalised into harming yourself and hurting other people.
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I understand your sentiment.

Let’s go a step further with this. Let’s say you have a circus lion, a zoo lion, a car safari lion and a savannah lion. Each has its own awareness about humans.

What keeps the circus lion from biting off the head of the lion tamer when he does his circus act from , say, the savannah lion who has little to no contact with humans?

I once saw a herd of wild horses in the Colorado mountains. It was a beautiful sight to see these majestic animals running around in complete natural freedom. I asked my friend, a hunting guide, about them, as I could see there were several different breeds. He said, “You’ll never catch one of those horses. Those are horses that broke away from the farms. They know captivity.” It made the sighting that much more beautiful.

I understand nature, freedom, oneness. But what separates the circus lion from the savannah lion?

By the way, the Dalai Lama has a video out (on Feb 11th) about emotions. A must see.


A whip and food will certainly maintain a wild animal in a circus ring to some degree. I wouldn’t nesecessarily call this “taming the wild beast” but more managing the potential of its nature as it can be in ways to serve human purpose.

Of course in the wild, as a human your not going into the arena uneducated about the lions natural movements in the wild, so you, in this way become a source of prey to the wild animal. In this arena it’s the lions domain, not the human controlled, contained methods to satisfy its own gain. A human without control and the whip becomes an open source to nature’s way. So naturally if your wise you would educate yourself to be aware of its wild nature, otherwise you might lose your head. :)
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Like others have already said, the tiger already knows his nature, my solution to the riddle would be to tie a big juicy steak to the tiger's tail and let him take a bite, that might make him empathize with his prey more but in the end he's still a tiger, and he's gonna eat all the cute little jungle creatures. So maybe what you should do is very slowly walk backwards out of the jungle?
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I think the question relates to self-awareness, and how things that are most normal and natural are invisible. For example, in the West we notice Indians have that head wobble, but in India, they don't really notice, 'oh I'm wobbling my head now,' or, 'Oh Patel wobbles his head,' - because head wobbles are completely normal.


'The tiger' is lethal in a normal way, which means our normal, unremarkable, unnoticed, behaviour can be very harmful.


To make 'the tiger' aware of its own deadliness, the tiger has to be aware of what it does, the intent behind it, and the harm it causes. Of course 'the tiger' isn't literally a tiger. It is about yourself being unconsciously normalised into harming yourself and hurting other people.

yes, yes! The last two sentences resonated energetically with where spirit wants me to go with this. I agree that self-awareness is key here, but a wild animal has no such self-awareness. Hence, the riddle they gave me.

A tiger would attack for two reasons: threat (self-preservation) and hunger
( biological needs). Lethality is the desired outcome for both. But what would be a stop-key?

Spirit didn’t say why would you make a tiger aware... or when would you make it aware...so I feel the answer lies in deciphering a threat from a non-threat?

I meditated and asked for more clarity. The only hint I was given was the word “absence” but that just adds to my maze for a spiritual answer. Like that last word you need to complete a crossword puzzle and the hint doesn’t help.
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Like others have already said, the tiger already knows his nature, my solution to the riddle would be to tie a big juicy steak to the tiger's tail and let him take a bite, that might make him empathize with his prey more but in the end he's still a tiger, and he's gonna eat all the cute little jungle creatures. So maybe what you should do is very slowly walk backwards out of the jungle?

I don’t think you can Make a person empathize. If that were the case, there’d be no prisons or Death Row. But I understand your point.

And what if hes in our human domain and not his natural domain. The rules must be different.
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Here it is: How do you make a tiger aware of its lethalness?
Give it a taste of its own medicine.


People with NPD tend to have only one thinking pattern - their own - and they seem incapable of any other train of thought, they also have their own logic/reasoning and often it doesn't make sense to anyone but themselves. Often they can't process sarcasm or reverse psychology so you can use that to derail their train of thought so you can impose your own unassailable logic and facts.
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well this answer may be too simple but it seems like it'd be to cage it, and perhaps the word absence you mentioned means that in the absence of its normal self and livelihood is how you make it aware of its lethalness. lol now I don't know how much this will be appreciated lol but I can't help but think of this profane comedy skit done by a Kat Williams about being a tiger.. may not be applicable but may be enjoyed by some I don't know my fiance loves it I guess cuz he feels like the misunderstood tiger.. the skit in its entirety has some great moments though.. warning there's profanity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCwu0zN-78w

or maybe the answer lies in caging it and releasing it and caging it and releasing it again.. maybe hinting at cyclical progress and healing, etc. and 'absence' further solidifying the message of appreciating what you have when you have it
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