Highly Evolved Societies

[iamthat]

Originally Posted by Explorer21

Britain harmed India in many ways, but also benefited it in other ways.

The Caste System was introduced thousands of years ago by the Hindu priesthood and was a powerful way for them to control people. The priests taught that God created humans in a state of inequality, ...

Yes, the British exploited India for economic purposes and tried to impose British ideas onto Indian society, but Indians were being exploited long before the British came, usually by other Indians or other foreign rulers. And the British left the legacy of the railways, the legal system, and perhaps most important, the English language. But then, as a British person brought up in India I may be biased.

My understanding of the caste system is that it was originally beneficial so that everyone knew their place in society and functioned together as a whole. This was corrupted by the Brahmins who wanted to ensure their own position and so placed themselves above all others. Oddly enough, these Brahmins do not seem to consider the possibility that they might be reborn in one of the lower castes that they so despise.

Peace

[iamthat]

Originally Posted by running

I cant speak for other countries. But in the usa we have a constitution. which the first and most important thing given to the people is freedom of speech. anybody can write about, speak about, what they wish. even if it offends people.

the idea of not getting information to read in the usa is a fallacy. indoctrination happens to people that don't have the right to the information they wish.

so when looking for such you may want to look at what rights the people have. do they a social credit score? that would be another thing to look for as well. if they do you can bet the people dont have access to information. because of individual liberty having value. we have no social score card. we also have freedom of speech. in addition. we have been given the right to have the power to over throw the goverment if we so desire.The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution. right to keep and bear arms: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Ah, America, the Great Democracy, the land of the free! Such a joke.

But it is not a joke. It is a tragedy that a country founded with such high ideals and aspirations has ended up in its current state.

Peace

[running]

Originally Posted by iamthat

Ah, America, the Great Democracy, the land of the free! Such a joke.

But it is not a joke. It is a tragedy that a country founded with such high ideals and aspirations has ended up in its current state.

Peace

i am doing very well thank you. nothing is ever perfect. im sorry you feel that way about where i live. my going on 46 years of being here has been good. its about what you make it. the last few has been better comparatively speaking. everyday blue collar folks like myself are prospering. everything has its cycles. its more about taking advantage of prospering times to be ready for things aren't as good. i have learned to save while others spend. its what you make it. everything is cyclical.

[Shivani Devi]

Originally Posted by running

you said socialism. you described communism. a heavy duty version of such to boot.

No!

I said socialism and I described socialism! (Especially in regards to the Monarchies of all the South-East Asian kingdoms from circa 5,000 BCE to 1500 CE).

Communism vs. Socialism

The main difference is that under communism, most property and economic resources are owned and controlled by the state (rather than individual citizens); by contrast, under socialism, all citizens share equally in all economic resources as allocated by a democratically-elected government.May 23, 2019

https://www.dictionary.com/e/socialism-democracy/

So, using this definition, can you please tell me where I "described communism" and according to what other definition?

However, don't feel so bad about not getting the difference, because it has been found that many people in the USA don't understand it either - especially on Twitter and other social media.

Also, it is only your opinion as well that I am speaking about Communism or I am speculating. Thing is, I know what I know!

I have also pretty much decided that seeing as how I have the IQ of two Einstein's, I am going to just give up this whole "spiritual trip" anyway and lord my superior intellect over those who don't have one simply because I can!

It is time that I forget about the consequences and just go for it, acknowledging my brilliance at the total expense of those who need to hide their own lack of it by telling me that I am making things up because ANYONE can find stuff online to support an argument if they look hard enough and it will STILL be all bulldust anyway.

....and the word is "dying" and not "dieing".

[Clover]

Originally Posted by iamthat

Ah, America, the Great Democracy, the land of the free! Such a joke.

But it is not a joke. It is a tragedy that a country founded with such high ideals and aspirations has ended up in its current state.

Peace

Let's not go there.

Let's have a conversation without bringing in politics ( against forum policy). Most importantly, lets be respectful of each others countries, none which have a perfect history or system

Thanks,

Clover

[Explorer21]

You make a very good point when you say Brahmins do not consider the possibility that they themselves might be reborn as a member of one of the lower castes despised by them.

Originally Posted by iamthat

Yes, the British exploited India for economic purposes and tried to impose British ideas onto Indian society, but Indians were being exploited long before the British came, usually by other Indians or other foreign rulers. And the British left the legacy of the railways, the legal system, and perhaps most important, the English language. But then, as a British person brought up in India I may be biased.

My understanding of the caste system is that it was originally beneficial so that everyone knew their place in society and functioned together as a whole. This was corrupted by the Brahmins who wanted to ensure their own position and so placed themselves above all others. Oddly enough, these Brahmins do not seem to consider the possibility that they might be reborn in one of the lower castes that they so despise.

Peace

[Shivani Devi]

Originally Posted by iamthat

My understanding of the caste system is that it was originally beneficial so that everyone knew their place in society and functioned together as a whole. This was corrupted by the Brahmins who wanted to ensure their own position and so placed themselves above all others. Oddly enough, these Brahmins do not seem to consider the possibility that they might be reborn in one of the lower castes that they so despise.

Peace

BRILLIANT! This is perfectly true.

There are not many who can honestly understand this and I am glad that you do. I really don't like it when people "think with their emotions".

At least there is one person in this thread besides myself who knows what they are talking about.

I am also starting to lose my patience with simpletons in a huge way. Do you have any advice for me?

[Shivani Devi]

Originally Posted by clover

Let's not go there.

Let's have a conversation without bringing in politics ( against forum policy). Most importantly, lets be respectful of each others countries, none which have a perfect history or system

Thanks,

Clover

I apologise Clover.

I cannot speak about "Highly Evolved Societies" without also discussing the internal politics which would make them such, thus I leave this thread for others who may be able to do so and also still manage to keep it within the auspices of the other forum rule which relates to "discussion vs debate".

[BigJohn]

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