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10-05-2015, 05:45 AM
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Knower
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 223
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How can you tell genuine real authentic Carnelian crystals?
Just curious how can you tell if it's a real Carnelians and are not dyed or fake?
Because some sites says that -- Recently, natural carnelian has become extremely rare and in order to keep up with demand, many carnelian stones are actually agate stones that have been dyed and heated to obtain their carnelian colors.
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11-05-2015, 02:06 AM
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Wow, that is really too bad. I don't like the fake stones either. What's worse is that some reputable crystal shops inadvertently sell the fake stuff, so we always have to be on the lookout!
I didn't know there was fake Carnelian. But I did hear that if you suspect a stone of being dyed, particularly agate, you can sit the stone in a bowl of water for a few hours and see if the water turns color. The dye can sometimes seep out.
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11-05-2015, 02:29 AM
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Every stone is faked. As mentioned, even good stores get duped. The only way to tell sometimes is to consult with a GIA-certified gemologist, but many (if not most) of them have little or no experience with anything other than precious and semi-precious gems.
Remember that the color is as important as the stone's energy. Color is light and light has its own energy. Even fake ones can be useful if your intent remains.
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11-05-2015, 07:05 PM
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I guess you could always try the scratch test... though i doubt the shops would let you. Perhaps bring a rough quartz pebble and pretend to be measuring sizes or something while discreetly rubbing them together or something
That aside... I think carnelian is still one of the more common crystals, so I wouldnt worry too much about it?
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12-05-2015, 12:18 AM
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Experiencer
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: San Diego, California
Posts: 452
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If you buy pocket sized tumbled stones then it might be a bit difficult to tell the difference, bigger pieces are more obvious. I don't know how to explain it though, I can just notice it when I see it in person. If you do get a dyed or heat treated Agate don't feel too bad since Agates and Carnelian are both Chalcedony. In short and simple terms; Agate is a banded chalcedony (different colors available) and Carnelian is an red-ish to orange Chalcedony with or without banding.
I am a bit skeptical on the harder to find claim since Carnelian is a common crystal, maybe high quality is a bit more difficult to find. Agates are a lot more common than the specific color of Carnelian which makes Agate a cheaper priced crystal than Carnelian so perhaps sellers rather buy the cheaper priced dyed/heat treated Agates.
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13-05-2015, 09:43 AM
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Master
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 7,098
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I'm with Selbor in the skeptical corner when it comes to Carnelian being rare.
I mostly buy from a good shop, they got very high quality crystals, they can both feel crystals and their energies as tell what's fake and what isn't. And they buy from good sources only, often directly from miners. I.e. they got access to the owner of the Mt Shasta opal mine. They buy directly of him (he only sells to some 20 distributors worldwide, very selective whom he sells to).
I've never seen fake carnelian, so not a clue whether or not I could tell the difference. I got the Madagascar ones, ones seen a crystal clear & very high quality orange one, not the Madagascar variety. Stunning piece! Regret not buying it.
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